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Special Weapons SW.45

royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
edited March 2002 in Ask the Experts
Does anyone out there have any info good or bad about these weapons? It is a .45 cal based on the HK Mp5 . It has HK parts and a U.S receiver. It also uses modified greasegun mags. Their Hq is in Tempe Arizona.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not the SW5's but I've got an SW3. Special Weapons makes some good quality guns. Very tight and well built. I opted for the SW3 instead of a true HK. Same quality but 1/2 the price.
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good, thanks Greenlantern. I have a chance to purchase one. I pulled one up to my shoulder the other day and now I am in love. The price tag is biting me in the butt though.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just curious, but what's the price if you don't mind me asking? In case you didn't know, Special Weapons discontinued the 45 caliber, but I don't think that'll effect value up or down.
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They are asking 1700.00.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've seen higher and lower! One thing to think about is the cost of extra mags. I'd think the grease gun mags might be a little more than if it was a 9mm. There's still plenty of mp5/hk94 mags available. If I were serious about buying it I'd do a little research on the cost difference.
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The greasegun mags are cheap to get but they have to be slightly modified. Extra mags from the factory are 30.00 each. I have a gunsmith that will modify them for me for 25.00(for three mags). I can get greasegun mags for 9.00-12.00. The main thing I am worried about is how reliable these weapons are. How was yours?
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sold my "real" HK 94 and bought a SW5 with the profit , never regretted it for a moment! That was about 3 years ago ... they are well made accurate and reliable.
    Here's a thought: Let's make criminals responsible for their crimes ... ...Not blame society and the tools they use!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I second what kimberkid says. I don't regret mine in the least. Always functions and is accurate! Sounds like you've done your homework with regard to the mags.[This message has been edited by GreenLantern (edited 03-09-2002).]
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well you guys have never steered me wrong yet. Here I go! (diving off the highdive). Thanks guys.[This message has been edited by royc38 (edited 03-09-2002).]
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok, just to add a thought to a post of which I have no knowledge. I asked, and was told, on this board, that you cannot take a preban mag, designed for one gun, and convert it to fit another gun, unless it will still work in the original gun. That being so, modifying a grease gun mag to fit another gun, done post ban, is making a post ban hi cap mag, even if the parts/material is of preban origin.That is against the law, if you live in the free country of the U.S.A. I fortunately managed to modify a steel drum to fit my mini-14 from a m-16/ar-15 before that date. Had I not done it, it would now be illegal for me to make one, and my AC-556 does love that drum...
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hmm, interesting issue. Not sure what to think about that. If you modify the mag for it to fit a different weapon, but it still fits the old weapon, have you really violated the law? Probably if you possess only the new gun?
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have seen the mags. All they do is cut a small rectangular hole on the side that locks up into the weapon and add a small steel square to secure it below that. From what I have seen it will still work in a regular greasegun. That is how they are doing it at the factory. So my gunsmith will be imitating this procedure on mine when I get them. I sure hope its not illegal to do that.
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  • gregrphgregrph Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    check the hk forums, have seen some neg posts about sw, mostly service issues.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My belief is that if the factory (i.e. Special Weapons) is doing the conversion then it is probably legal. When dealing with the introduction of a new model into the market, I think a firearms manufacturer must submit a copy of it to the BATF. One would assume that in the course of the evaluation that the mag issue would surface. I'd find it surprising that SW would so blazenly violate a law when their reputation or their lively-hood is at stake. They seem to do a pretty good up front analysis as to their ability to market a weapon and if mags were in extremely short supply, then I don't see them introducing such a model in the first place. But, as they say, the proof is in the pudding! Can anybody find the exact statue or law that pertains to this.? Not that the BATF can't 'interpret' an existing law.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    not that I am putting down SW, but, there is only one REAL HK. I have shot many well built imitations, BUT, they are not the BEST.The real one will always bring more resale $$$.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, HK is quality, there is no disputing that. But on the other side of the coin, the SW is just as good of quality (IMO) and yet it's NEW! If it doesn't work or need tweeking, at least you've got a company to deal with that is in business on American soil. Also, I think resale value is relative. I see plenty of HK91s that I wouldn't pay asking price for.[This message has been edited by GreenLantern (edited 03-12-2002).]
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    somebody always will pay for HK. They will also service your gun, in Germany, for you. I have sent guns back to them before. It does take a while, but, HK works on it.I don't disagree about quality issues. Well maybe a little, but not enough to not own one. almost forgot, My buddy just bought a brand new in the box HK91, I was not impressed enough to offer the $2300 for another one from the same guy. It was however, highly accurate for a battle gun.[This message has been edited by JustC (edited 03-12-2002).]
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    75% of the parts are made by HK on this weapon. The only thing thats American is the receiver and the mags.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not bad customer service if they'll send a gun all the way to Germany to service. Not bad at all!$2300 is a lot, but maybe NIB it's worth it. NIB puzzles me though since they stopped imported them in 1989 right? Was it one someone had sitting around in a safe for the last 12 years? Kind of curious.
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Greenlantern, From my understanding, as long as it still works in the original gun, you can modify it, and be legal. If you modify it and it won't work in the original gun, then you have created a post ban hi cap mag. Doesn't matter that it was pre ban, when it fit the other gun, because it lost the pre-ban status when you "distroyed it" by not letting it work in that gun. Clear as mud...???
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greenlantern, a buddy of mine has found some people out west who obviously had foresight. This guy has a room full of HK91's and Ar-15's all new in boxes. Plus, benelli assault shotguns, mil-spec mags in the bags etc etc etc etc. I wouldn't have beleived it but he has bought one of each over the last few months. Daddy's boy with too much $$$$, but I have seen them all. If only I made 100k/yr.......
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