+P ammo

hecklerxkoch

what is +P ammo and what is is useful for??

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hecklerxkoch

what is the actual difference between normal and +p ammo i know it is a hotter load but how much?

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hecklerxkoch

Is +P ammo safe to use in a Colt Detective special and a S&W Model 60? Both guns circa 1980

hecklerxkoch

Asking S&W and several ammo makers if you can use +P .38 special ammo in model 37 & model 60 .38 special , nobody will advise it for fear of liability ... However when searching ballistic charts for regular .38 special ammo we see lots that have a greater muzzle velocity than some +P ammo .. Anybody got experience here ? Thanks for any comments ...

hecklerxkoch

Whats the deal with plus P ammo? I see where Sig will void a warranty if its used in their pistols...

hecklerxkoch

I have a Arminius 45 long colt revolver and I want to know if it will handle Corbon +P ammo. Thanks for the help.

hecklerxkoch

Hello can somebody please tell me what the +p ammo is plese i had somebody give me some personal protection 380 and they say +p and i dont want to shoot them till i find out what it means thank you

pikeal1

to my understanding, +p and +p+ is ammo that shoots at a higher preassure. I haven't a clue as far as reloading and powders etc, but i know that it is hotter than your regular factory ammo.

Some guns recommend that you stay away from +P as they might malfunction in the gun. I have a Glock 26 loaded with Winchester Ranger +p+. Before firing that round, I called Glock and they said that it was fine to use a self defense round, but not to use it as your regular range ammo due to the high preassures.


im sure others on the forum will be able to get into more detail, but that might get you started.

Alex

Nighthawk

Plus P ammo is loaded to a higher pressure than is recommended by (saami) standards.Sporting arms and ammunition manufactures Institute. You should shoot Plus-P ammo in modern arms that are manufactured for it.Depending on the load their are only slight velocity Increases.And can cause premature ware on your firearm.

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NoelDog

As stated in previous posts +P ammo is just a "hotter" load for a particular caliber. Almost every modern "new" pistol comes with an instuction/user manual and should clearly state if your particular pistol can withstand the pressures of +P and/or +P+ ammunition. If not then a call to the weapons manufaturer can often clear up the issue. As a rule of thumb, most of the "lightweight", "feather weight" and assorted other alluminium and alloy framed handguns can not handle the extra pressure (you will find out how Elmer Fudd feels when Bugs Bunny sticks his fingers in Elmer's shotgun ;-). Like any hi-pressure load they will put more wear on your firearm than standard pressure loads (think of a car you put ultra-high octane gas in all the time and routinely drive at speeds over 90+ MPH. That car will wear out much faster than a like car using standard grade gas and driving at more moderate speeds). Personnally, I feel most standard velocity rounds do a "good-enough" job for me. If I want to push a 125-grain bullet in excess of 1000 fps, I won't use a .38 special +P+, I will use a .357 magnum. If you decide to use a +P or +P+ in your firearm, reserve it for self-defense or duty rounds, and stick with standard pressure stuff for volume shooting at the range.
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Noel

PJ

I take it then that a 38 + P would be O. K. In a 357 Magnum (Marlin 1894 Cowboy).
Pete

mballai

38+Ps are fine in a 357 Mag.

FWIW +P loads are designed to provide added velocity, something that is of marginal value in handguns with a full 5" or longer barrel. For small concealed carry guns with certain calibers (9mm/38SPL) that need some oomph, +Ps do have some benefit to get decent penetration and power. The problem is that the average small frame concealed carry gun is not built for a steady diet of +Ps, so use them with caution.

How effective the average +P is debatable. I recommend them for the everyday self-defense 38SPL or compact 9mms. I can't say much for them otherwise. When in doubt, use a bigger gun.

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hecklerxkoch

Thanks for the information!!!!!!!!!

New gun??? No, honey, I've had it for years.

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interstatepawnllc

I also beleive that the +P+ ammo is limited to law enforcement sales/usage only.

NoelDog

WRT +P+ for law enforcement use/sale only. I thought I read a BATF notice somewhere (can't find it now though) that some makes (9mm and .38 special) of +P+ were no longer law enforcement only. But if anyone buys any (i.e. online auction/gunshow) make sure the seller has a copy of the notice available with your purchase, just to be safe.