Top Folding Shotgun Stock

gunpaq

Does anyone know of a company that makes a top folding stock that will fit a Remington 1100 Semi Auto shotgun. I know ATI makes one that will fit a model 870 but I don't know if it will fit a semi auto or not. I want one that has a pistol grip and is top folding. Thank you.

gunpaq

Looking at buying or building an 870 home defense gun and want to know is there an advantage to having a top folding stock. Will be kept behind the headboard, bedside dresser drawer, etc.

Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.

nmyers

There are a couple of advantages---unfortunately, both of them favor the burglar.

First, it will be a lot easier for the burglar to stick in a pillow case with the rest of your valuables. (The odds are much greater that your gun will be stolen in a burglary when you are not home, than that you will ever get a chance to use it defending yourself while in your home.) Your personal defense gun, like all your other guns, should be locked up, preferably in a safe or lock box.

Second, if you DO get a chance to use it against a burglar, the odds are real high that you will miss. Shotguns need to be aimed, and you need a shoulder stock that fits you well in order to do that.

Neal

gunpaq

Personally I like a gun that can be used as a club when the ammo runs out and I guess the "cool" looking top folder stock does not make the 870 a very good club. Everyone at the local gun shop says no to the top folder and to stick with a conventional style stock.

Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.

74cuda

Nothing says that the top folder can't be extended and used as a conventional stock weapon. If you have narrow hallways, or tight quarters, the top folder may come in handy. Tubbs seemed to be able to aim his shotgun "John Wayne Style" without the stock, with practice.

If you like it, get it. If you decide you don't like it, you can always sell it and go back to a standard stock weapon. One will never know unless one tries it....

"In God We Trust........All Others Go Thru NCIC"

seamus

In my experience, folding or collapsible stocks should, with very few exceptions, be fully extended whenever possible if use is anticipated or likely. That means that in almost all combat or duty situations, the stock must be extended in order for the weapon to be deployed effectively. The few exception where it may be advantageous to leave a stock folded (or in the collapsed position) include: (1) when used from inside a vehicle, (2) when searching or clearing narrow passageways, cargo holds, or other VERY tight quarters, (3) in some vehicular checkpoint inspections, and (4) when used concealed by a plain clothed/undercover LEO. Remember, firing a long arm with a folded stock will bring your hit rate way, way down. And it you think you'll have time to "unfold" the stock in a combat situation, think again. Well then, what good are they, if not used for the limited situations mentioned above? A folder may be handy, or even de rigueur, if stowage is a problem, such as in a boat or airplane. My boat is large enough for full stock rifles or shotguns, but my onboard safe would have to be twice as large (and heavy) if the stocks weren't folders. That's why I have a couple of folders.

seamus

Gunpaq: by the way. If you still have a need for a folding stock, I have an extra Remington factory folder for the 870 (with "Law Enforcement Only" designation on metal) that I'm willing to part with. It's in 95-98% conditon. You can email me at potomac@oceanfree.net.

Alerion

I have a top folding stock on a Mossburg 500. Personally I never intend to fire it with the stock folded but I have that option if I need it.

The main reason I have mine is that the gun fits in the (Ford) factory storage box on the floor behind the seat in my pickup. The box is divided in the center so I can't carry a gun with a fixed stock. However, by carrying the gun behind the passenger seat I can get it out without folding the seat forward. If I'm trying to reach it from outside the driver's door it's still an easy reach. (I carry it upside down with the grip toward the center.)

The stock unfolds in probably less than two seconds. I grip the buttplate so I can fold it down in the same motion where I unfold the stock. I figure the tradeoff is that I can have the stock unfolded faster than I could maneuver a stocked gun from out behind the seat (assuming it would fit in the first place.)

I also use this gun in my travel trailer when I'm camping. Again, it's a lot easier to hide. A stocked gun would have to go in the closet (first place someone will look) or under the bed (where I can't get to it.) I'm not telling where I keep it but, be assured, I can get it out in a hurry!

Overall, it's not a great setup but it does some things a conventionally stocked gun can't. I wouldn't own one as my only shotgun. BTW, if you don't like it you don't need to sell the gun. There's a huge selection of stocks available for these guns and the hardest part of changing stocks is finding the right sized allen wrench!

Tom

So, just how does rendering me defenseless protect you from violent criminals?

Edited by - Alerion on 06/26/2002 10:52:17