Transporting from FL

cbxjeff

I am being given a very small collection from a friend in the Orlando area. There are probably 8 - 10 items both pistols and rifles. I will be driving down from IN (I do have a IN carry permit for whatever that's worth out of state). What do I need to do to keep from getting busted for being a gun runner! I hate to have them all go through my local dealer. With shipping and his modest fee, I am still talking over $300.

cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.

nmyers

Well Jeff, the way to avoid being busted as a gun runner is NOT TO BE A GUN RUNNER.

As I am sure that you are aware, what you have planned is a violation of federal law. Sure, you can seal them in a box and put them in your trunk, and probably get home without anyone being the wiser. But, suppose the unexpected happens: a deer runs into your car, a drunk driver rear ends you, or the police stop you for speeding. One thing leads to another, the police find grounds for searching your car, and you end up in handcuffs. The state police will turn you over to the feds, who will do their best to see that you do 5 years in federal prison. Of course, your lawyer will do his best to get you off, but his $10,000 retainer will be nonrefundable.

Hmmm, maybe you'll sleep better if you just pay the $300.

Neal

cbxjeff

OK, So I assume that I can not be given firearms in FL as an out of state resident and move them. Sounds like nice easy money for the folks that can! What if I was to inherit them? Can I move them legally then? You know, this really su*ks. These things aren't worth a bunch except for personal value. Maybe the best thing for me to do is drive down to FL, pick up my pal, and bring him up here, along with the guns, for a short vacation. I could do that for almost as much as the postage and transfers and have his company for a while. The more I think about this the madder I get. OK, I'll be quiet now!

cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.

nmyers

Actually, inheritance is one exception that would permit you to legally do what you proposed (see Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide ATF P5300.4, page 50).

Just have your FL friend name you in his will, and you can pick up the guns when he dies.

Neal

docd

If they are YOUR guns ,put them in a hard case,locked & take them home.you dont have to feel guilty about that.

cbxjeff

Thanks for the info. guys.

cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.

gunpaq

Question: What if the friend of cbxjeff lends him the firearms for private domestic purposes with paperwork stating such?. Like a buddy who lends a friend his guns to go hunting, etc. I have stored and transported firearms for friends out of state several times when they went on assignment. They had given me custody of the firearms as part of their personal property (the same as looking after a pet or a gold watch)in which there was a fiduciary trust. All firearms had paperwork and documentation of ownership and custody with them (they also were insured)and there was no problem according to the BATF person with whom I spoke to concerning transporting of firearms belonging to another person as long as they were legal, properly and securely stored for transportation, the reason for transporting was legitimate (moving, hunting, target, etc.) and I was traveling directly to the owner's location, point to point. They did suggest contacting the state/county/local police whose areas I would be traveling through, which I always did, just in case of an accident or routine stop-did travel on I-95. I do agree with Nmyers, $300 +/-, may be a lot easier and the safeest thing to do if you are getting the guns for free or just bring your friend back with you for a visit with his guns. I also have to add that the BATF person suggested shipping the firearms to a FFL near the destination rather than transporting them myself.

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