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Stevens .410 Double Barrel

rhmc24rhmc24 Member Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 2002 in Ask the Experts
I know of a NIB .410 Stevens double in an estate that may come up for sale. What would be a fair amount to offer for it? Always wanted a .410 double. Thanks, Robert
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  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106 ✭
    edited November -1
    Stevens is generally considered a utility gun. But a NIB .410... That might just make someone drool.

    A new Stevens 12ga. can be had for around $300.00. Used will usually take $100.00 off the value in a hurry. And then there's the .410. I don't know if I'd double the offer, but you'll pay a premium.

    Nord
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    I sold one 98% with the box and tags a couple years ago for $500.00. Looking back should have gotten 550-600 since it had the box and all papers. It is undoubtedly the one gun I've sold that I wish I had back the worst!!! Then there's the Model 53 Win in25-20...the 77 Ruger in 250-3000... the Pythons(2).... the Model 29s...But still the most regrettable is the 410BSE Savage Fox!!! GHD
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  • JudgeColtJudgeColt Member Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While any old gun as new-in-the-box appeals to me, the Stevens is not a Fox BSE, and is not as desirable. Neither the Stevens nor the Fox .410 shotguns were built on small frames appropriate for the .410. The .410 barrels have a big chunk of steel below them at the rear that is shaped to blend in with the frame where the barrels go on the larger guages. Therefore, the shotguns are thicker and heavier than they should be for a .410. They therefore do not have the lines of a .410 Parker or one of the higher grade Spanish .410 shotguns, but, of course, they do not cost the same either.

    Still, NIB...! Tempting. $500 sounds about right to me. However, if two people want it at an auction, I speculate it will take $650 to get it.
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    JudgeColt, No it's not a Sterlingworth, but I do think it's probably better than them foreign made things. And no this one was not a 410 on a 12 guage frame. I liked it and the man that bought it thought the sun rose and set in box it came in!! I sold it, I miss it and I wish I had it back!!!! GHD
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  • martzkj@msn.commartzkj@msn.com Member Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just sold a mint one for $500.00. If the gun is NIB and you can buy it for $500.00, I would say it's a deal.
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  • JudgeColtJudgeColt Member Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GHD, I know it is not a Sterlingworth! I doubt that all of us put together could aford a .410 Sterlingworth! Of course, the Sterlingworths are not related at all to the Stevens/Fox 311/B shotguns of the 1960s through the 1980s.

    Without doing some research, I cannot verify whether the later Fox/Stevens doubles had more than one frame size, but I do not think they did. If they did, I know there was nothing smaller than a 20-gauge frame, hence the awkward rear barrel appearance, and extra weight and bulk of the .410 doubles.

    If you think any Stevens/Fox B shotgun is better than the AyA Spanish shotguns, you need new glasses! The higher grade Spanish shotguns look perfect to me, the close rival of best quality German and English guns. A better quality AyA .410 double (about five pounds) will be several thousand dollars, and worth it. No Stevens comes close.
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    Judge, Don't get your bloomers in a twist!! I don't keep up with the shotguns as much as the rifles. The Spanish made guns may be the cat's meow. I shouldn't have made that statement about the "foreign made" guns because I havan't seen enough of them here to make an educated judgement on them. I know that I wish I had the L.C.Smith 410 that the old guy that ran the roadhouse down the road from us had and offered to my Daddy for me for 250.00 when I was in the 2nd grade! My Daddy didn't have the money to pay him that much and I remember it to this day!!! That's why when my kid's think they really want something if it's in my power I'll get it for them!!! As far as the AyA's go, you could give me the highest grade they make and if I had that Smith I wanted so bad as a 7 year old kid, I'd tell you to put it where the sun don't shine!!! GHD
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  • beltfedbeltfed Member Posts: 690 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As usual Mr colt is correct, back in the mid eighties I had a buddy with a ffl. I took a interest in the savage fox BSE in 410. So my buddy tossed me his disturbtors catalogs and said find yourself one.Savage had just quit making the gun, but I found a disturbtor that had one. I still have it unfired, with box and all the paper work. Well last year I picked up a iver johnson hurchles grade 410 with auto ejectors.The guy got the gun when he was ten years old he was now fiftyseven years old. I have never handled such a sweet little gun, it has the stright stock and is it beautiful condtion. As for Mr colt he is right, the frame is half the size of the savage. Now I own a few nice guns H&k's, colts M1A's, ect, but this little iver johnson would be the last to go!!! I also have a browning BSS sporter in twenty gauge in the box and it's it would go loooonnnng befor the 410. I would love to find a iver johnson in 28 gauge. Why can't they make small frame guns like the iver today?
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  • rhmc24rhmc24 Member Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks guys for all the info and expertise. I haven't seen the piece out of the box and put together. It must be a fairly late one because it has the impressed checkering on the fore end, rather than the cut type of checkering. The packaging obscures view of the receiver. I'll try to get hold of it an put it together and learn more about it. At this point I don't want to attract too much attention to it ---. Thanks again. Robert
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