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How rare is this 1873??

toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2013 in Ask the Experts
It's out of my price range but it is still way cool!!

http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=371242103
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The sights alone would make that a nice addition to any collection. [:D]
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is what a beach front sight looks like. This one folds. Some were fixed. From the photos on the auction. At least it appears to me, that the front sight isn't a beach.

    Another point is the letter from Cody. With the advent of computers and laser printers. I wouldn't put any stock in "Factory Letters", unless I personally obtained them.




    EDIT #1

    Same guy auctioning two similar rifles. Why is the photo of the Beach front sight on the second rifle, so much more detailed than this one?





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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I disagree with Rufe-snow.

    The sight in the picture Rufe posted is a variation of the Lyman No. 5 combination front sight, which is similar to an orignal Beach combination sight, but not the same.

    The sight shown here is an original Beach combination front sight, and is idential to the one installed on the subject Model 1873 rifle.

    http://www.hallowellco.com/beech_combination_front_sight.htm

    The Beach combination sight has a sighting pin on the top of the ring, an aperture pin in the center, and a metal barleycorn style blade when the sight is folded down flat to the barrel.

    The Lyman No. 5 combination sight does not have a pin on the top of the ring, and most of them have an ivory bead when the sight is folded flat. The Lyman No. 5 is much more commonly found on Winchester manufactured in the latter part of the 1890s through the 1920s.

    In regards to the Cody factory letter, it is authentic.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • BigLoop22BigLoop22 Member Posts: 620 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...well, did you notice the seller's other rifle, an 1876, with 7-leaf & Beach sights?:

    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=371242115

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    EDIT:

    Sorry, Bert, my comment was not directed at you, specifically. I wanted to draw everyone's attention to another "rare" Winchester that is being sold by the same seller. I have not seen a "7-leaf" sight, much less two, and this guy has two in his possession. Thanks, though, for your response.[:D]

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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, I did, and I have already had a few people ask me for my opinion of it. It does have a correct Beach combination front sight on it.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    Just out of curiousity Bert, what would YOU value that gun at??
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wanted man
    Just out of curiousity Bert, what would YOU value that gun at??


    Which one of them... there are two of them in the topic now?

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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