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sks question

redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
edited October 2013 in Ask the Experts
I don't know anything about an SKS.

How do you convert a fixed mag to a detachable 30rd mag or don't you?

I'm thinking about buying an SKS to keep in the trunk of my car because they are so cheap and I already have a couple thousand rounds of 7.62x39 ammo.

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  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How can you tell if a sks sporter is actually a sporter or just a type 56 that has been converted to accept the ak mags? I have seen several thumb-hole stock sks sporters and also own one(thumb-hole stock). Mine as well as all the ones I have seen say sporter on the receiver. Reason I am asking is because I was at a gun show and a guy was telling me that the gun he was selling was bought new in the box with the standard stock and was a sporter...Model D, whatever you want to call it. It's common knowlege that sporters were sent out from the factory with different style stocks including the standard type 56 stock. Anyway, I noticed it did not say sporter on the receiver. I had never seen a sporter without the thumb-hole stock in person before so I did not know rather or not those were also marked sporter on the receiver. So does anybody know if they made sporters that did not say sporter on the receiver? I passed on the deal because I believe that all sporters will say sporter on the receiver. Less than 2 mins later he sold it to a dealer. I then ask the dealer and he said he did know really know the answer, that he just bought it because it would take the ak's mage and 7 mags went with it, and the price was right. So do all sporters say sporter on the receiver?
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I live in Illinois Cook County to be exact. I have been eying an sks stamped 1950. I guess my first question is

    1. is this legal to own in Cook county

    2. is it concidered an assult weapon.

    I just want to find out before I attempt to buy one.

    if anyone knows the answers to these questions or know where to direct me to find the answers that would be a great help..
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    the gas chamber thing on my yugo sks is very loose and I cant seem to figure out why, is this a bad problem or can I just ignore it amd deal with the annoyance
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ok i just put a syn.stock on my SKS and it still feels loose like its not snug or fitting tightly any suggestion

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  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    well guys i am home just in time for the holidays...going to go to new york in a day or so and try to find closure for all that has happened and my personal loss in what occured on 9/11...good ol georgia...anyway i have a question on an sks i picked up a few years ago,,,i was told it was a bringback from the vietnam war and i was sure it was but now i am begining to wonder..it is romainian with a blade bayo on it..on the barrel it is stamped mod 56 762x39 then further down the barrel by the bayo lug it says cugir romania then below that it is stamped from what i can make out c.a.i. st. alb.vi.on the receiver it is stamped RA3010-1960 on top of the bolt which is chromed it's stamped RA3010 trigger group and 10 rd box magazine has the same RA3010 stamp and on the bolt by the ejection slot it is stamped 233 any idea what i got here??is it a bringback or just a plain ol sks..by the way i have managed to buy the 1864 58cal cap and ball musket which belong to great great grand dad who served as a scout with the illinois volunteers during the civil war so it will remain in the family awhile longer..thanks for any info and wish you all a merry christmas and a very happy new year...god it is good to be home...afghanistan sucks this time of the year
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    got a nice Romanian sks. from what I understand, as far as numbers imported, Romanians are, or should be the rarest of all of all sks's. only a couple thousand inported as opposed to 7000 Albanians? any thoughts? thanks
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Up here in PA tommorow is the first day of deer season...just out of curosity what if I take the Gas Piston and Op. Rod out of my sks, so it wouldnt cycle, could I use it to deer hunt or not. 2nd off would it be safe to shoo the gun?
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    how can you tell by looking at the gun whether it has a milled or stamped receiver and threaded-in barrel? Pictures would probably be helpful. Thanks in advance.
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an SKS that was originally manufactured to accept detachable AK-47 magazines. It has a wooden thumbhole stock and the following stamp is on the left side of the receiver:

    SKS SPORTER 7.62X39 MADIE IN CHINA BY
    NORINCO LABANU, INC. RONKONKOMA, NY. 93 17XXX

    I heard that the receivers on these rifles are milled and not stamped. Also, is this considered "pre-ban"?

    I have determined that this is a "type 56 carbine" due to the detachable magazine feature and the fact that there is no typical Norinco "triangle" symbol.
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got to shoot one for the first time a couple months ago. It put a big grin on my face for the rest of the day now I have to have one. I prefer a Chinese or a Russian, based on recommendations. Probably too expensive on the Russian, I'm on a tight budget right now. I've checked the local gun show and shops. I can find new Yugos, still in cosmoline, for $100-$120, but I hate messing with that crap. I've cleaned it out of magazines before but never a rifle. I've seen some ragged out Chinese SKS's for $150 but I'd like something that's in nice shape, not new just nice.
    Am I just fishing in the toilet bowl trying to find a decent, nothing fancy, Chinese SKS for under $150 in central Ohio?
    The gun prices around here are about average for most everything.
    What's a fair price for a Chinese SKS as described?
    Thanks to all who reply,
    Rob
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How do I remove the stock from a russian sks?









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  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just bought a SKS and I noticed the buttplate was loose...tried to tighten but one of the screws has stripped out the wood...the wood looks a little oily and I am sure than didn't help. The question is what is the best was to fix? Clean out the hole and fill with wood putty...drill out the hole and glue in a wood dowel, then drill a starter hole...other ideas?
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Norinco sks, made in 1975. It shoots flawlessly, and is very accurate. The problem I have are small metal flakes in the receiver-bolt area. I can't tell where they are coming from. I am guessing they are from the receiver rails for the bolt. Is this normal wear? I was using gun oil on the bolt-receiver area. I switched to a synthetic grease to try and eliminate any more flakes.

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  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just got a M type sks the one that is factory modified to accept AK mags, Thought it would be fun to plink around with, My question is that the mags really are hard to fit into weapon is this normal? And if I took a file to widen catch a little do you think it would harm anything? Thanks

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  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How can I tell what type SKS I have?
    I have seen type 56 mentioned frequently.
    I recently purchased a Chinese SKS.
    There is the number 26 in the triangle on the receiver.
    Importer was in Ca.

    Any help is appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Tony
  • redman.com1redman.com1 Member Posts: 718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm going to buy an SKS for my Christmas present to myself.
    I have a choice of an older Norinco with matching numbers or a new Yugo SKS. They each cost the same, $139. I imagine I can put a bayonet on the Norinco, but not the Yugo. This rifle will be for behind my truck seat.

    Please give me the Pros and Cons on the Norinco and the Yugo.
    Which would be your choice and why?

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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your point, is? What are you looking for from us?

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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redman.com1
    got a nice Romanian sks. from what I understand, as far as numbers imported, Romanians are, or should be the rarest of all of all sks's. only a couple thousand inported as opposed to 7000 Albanians? any thoughts? thanks


    I think the East German ones are considered the rarest and most desirable from a collectors standpoint. None of these were ever imported as surplus into the USA. There are only a few dozen of these (at most) in the USA, and they were all personal bringbacks from soldiers and the like.

    Second and third rarest are the North Vietnamese, and North Korean SKS rifles, with basically the same story as above.

    Romanian guns are among the rarer of the European ones, and I think you're right that of the ones imported as surplus, they were imported in smallest quantity, but as you say, there are several thousand of them floating around inside the USA, they're not "super rare".

    IMO the Russian ones, even if imported in greater number, are probably better as actual guns, and I think empirically they usually sell for more money than the other types.

    Responding to below
    quote:How do the Russian SKS with laminated stocks compare with the others in terms of workmanship and accuracy? I have one dated 1950 and does not look like it was ever used much.
    Like everything else German, the East German manufactured ones are probably the absolutely best in terms of build and parts quality, but realistically you're pretty unlikely to ever see one.

    Of the common surplus ones, the Russians are considered to have the best parts fit and finish.

    With the exceptions of the Yugo and Albanian guns, which actually were used fairly commonly in the Balkans wars, and the Chinese/Vietnamese guns, I think most of these SKS guns didn't actually see much real field use.

    By the mid 50's the Kalashnikov became the dominant primary longarm of the Communist bloc, and not only did it offer higher capacity than SKS carbines, but I think the AKs were cheaper to manufacture too.

    By the end of the 50s, SKS guns were mostly being used as backup guns or for ceremonial purposes. So your Russian gun that looks like it wasn't used much, probably wasn't. Also, with these the appearance might not tell the whole story, because I believe that like other Russian surplus arms, these SKS guns may have been "re-arsenalled" (ie refinished) for commercial sale in the US market. So its at least possible that the gun itself may have seen more use than the shiny stock and bluing suggest.
  • Manoa-FishermanManoa-Fisherman Member Posts: 190 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    I think the East German ones are considered the rarest and most desirable from a collectors standpoint. None of these were ever imported as surplus into the USA. There are only a few dozen of these (at most) in the USA, and they were all personal bringbacks from soldiers and the like.

    Second and third rarest are the North Vietnamese, and North Korean SKS rifles, with basically the same story as above.

    Romanian guns are among the rarer of the European ones, and I think you're right that of the ones imported as surplus, they were imported in smallest quantity, but as you say, there are several thousand of them floating around inside the USA, they're not "super rare".

    IMO the Russian ones, even if imported in greater number, are probably better as actual guns, and I think empirically they usually sell for more money than the other types.



    How do the Russian SKS with laminated stocks compare with the others in terms of workmanship and accuracy? I have one dated 1950 and does not look like it was ever used much.
  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    I always thought the N. Korean ones were the rarest.
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