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Best 10/22 hi cap mags??
landis
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Any ideas for what would be available concerning the best hicap mags for the Ruger 10/22? I am thinking of at least twenty rounds, and I have an Eagle 30 round mag which works great, but cant find any more. Any suggestions?
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Edited by - william81 on 07/15/2002 09:58:36
The Butler Creek will not work in the Intratec Tec-22 but work fine in the 10/22. From what I've seen, Butler Creek is a bit more highly regarded than Ram-Line and a bit more expensive if comparing 25 round versions. And the Butler Creek steel lip is most highly regarded, and the price reflects that. Genuine pre-ban steel lipped Butler Creek mags are scarce as hen's teeth, 'cause they are excellent mags and no one wants to part with them. I did want to caution you, there was a flood of Butler Creek mags and MWG 50 round drums coming in from Canada that some enterprizing con artist had ground the "Export Only" designation and date off of. In other words, they were post ban mags that had been altered to look like pre-ban mags with a grinding disk and polishing wheel. The hi-cap 10/22 mags are still legal in Canada, and are still sold up there. I see these listed in auctions from time to time. They are no bargain, as possession of them is a felony. You have to consider, the legitimate 10/22 pre-ban mags will continue to go up in price, but the altered mags will always be subject to confiscation or possibly worse. So don't run out and bid on the first Butler Creek Steel Lipped mags you come across.
Other tips, the red followers in the Ram-Line mags are better than the darker followers. The dark followers were an early version that Ram-Line admitted had trouble with high preformance modern ammo. The later ones with the red followers work better. Ram-Line isn't suppose to be quite as good as Eagle or Butler Creek as far as reliability (from those I've talked to). But I wouldn't use anything else in an Intratec, except Intratec mags. Intratec Tec-22 mags will also work in the 10/22.
Eagle mags are very good. They have some very nice features, an access door to clean them and the real lock-up pin is steel. But I've seen a few with broke feed lips. Watch out for those, check for cracks or breaks on the lips.
Condor made mags which are virtually identical to the Butler Creek mags, with steel lips. In fact, Butler Creek copied the Condor mags. Generally they are pretty good, I have seen a few where the steel housing is loose in the plastic. And they fit rather loosely in the mag wells, compared to most of the others. They seem kinda sloppy to me, and the steel casting used for the feed lips/lock-up lugs looks to be of poorer quality than the Butler Creek steel lip mags. But even with all this, I have never heard anyone complain about them, except they are no good for the Intratec 22.
Squires Bingham made an all steel 30 round 10/22 mag! Very scarce, and those I know who use them swear by them. I have one, but am afraid to pull it out of the wrapper as it would hurt the value. Probably the best chance of stumbling across one of those is in an old 10/22 that has one in it. I still keep my eyes open for those in racks wherever I go. I'd like to try one to see if they are as good as they claim.
Eaton made mags and drums. The 50 round drums are quite collectable and expensive, compared to the others. The Eaton banana mags are so-so, and some people would say towards the bottom of the list as far as being desireable. However, some people have had fine luck with them. But when seen they are less expensive than the others.
Mitchell made teardrop 50 round drums that are the same as the MWG drums. Same basic design, and I think the parts are interchangeable. I've seen a lot of Mitchell and MWG drums with breaks and chips, which has always made me stay away from them, figuring if I bought one it might suffer from the same affliction. But maybe the owners I've run into just drop them a lot. I've also heard people say they don't feed reliably, but don't know that first hand.
I think a lot of the reliability of 10/22 after market mags comes from the particular firearm/magazine combination. Sometimes a particular gun and particular magazine just don't get along. The instruction on the Eagle mags says (on a new mag) to lock it up several times to allow it to seat properly to the particular firearm it will be used in before you load it and use it. That indicates that if you use an Eagle mag as directed in one firearm, it won't necessarily fit a different firearm properly.
If you wanted one or two magazines that would last forever and stand the greatest chance of functioning properly in a 10/22, the Butler Creek Steel Lip would be your best choice. But you have to be careful, virtually all I've seen on internet auctions are the altered Canadian varieties. The best place I know of to get them is gun shows from reputable dealers. If you were to buy one, confirm that it comes in the original package, and check the sides for any evidence of polishing the post-ban data off. The same applies to the red "hot lips" (plastic lip) Butler Creek and MWG drums. Beyond that, I'd go with (1) new Steel Lipped Butler Creek, (2) either the "hot lip" Butler Creek or Eagle or (3) Ram-Line, in that order.
I've probably missed something, oh well, probably nothing important.
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I do have a question though. How high in price have the legal pre-ban steel lip Butler Creeks gotten? I've seen the legit plastic lips for around $65 each, but haven't seen any steel lipped for sale recently.
I've got four of the real pre-ban steel lipped, barely used--and I saved the old packaging (a "bad" habit of mine, always saving everything ).
If I were to put them in the auction, what would be a good starting price?
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Thanks folks!
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One of the problems with the Canadian mags showing up is they have supressed the price of the legitimate mags. People will buy the counterfeits either not knowing or not caring about their origin/status because the price seems good. The counterfeit steel lipped Butler Creeks I've seen have been selling for $60 to $75.
The only dealer I know of with any substantial quantity of genuine per-ban steel lipped BC's is Franks Center in Nevada, MO. They are in Shotgun News but don't list the mags there. They want $125.00 for their genuine steel lipped BC's.
The genuine BC Steel lips have always been scarce on internet auctions. A couple of years ago they were bringing some $90 to $100 each, new in pack. I really don't know what to tell you on yours, being used and considering the counterfeits. I would emphasize in the ad they are the real deal and not the counterfeits.
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