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UPS Shipping

bill2740bill2740 Member Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 2002 in Ask the Experts
I got this off another forum.Anyone know anything about this?

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"I spent some time looking into this today. I called UPS and spoke with a supervisor. I asked about separating a pistol into 2 separate boxes for shipping. Even though the frame is legally considered a firearm, UPS does not consider it a firearm if it is not a functioning weapon. It IS permissible to separate your pistol or revolver into 2 boxes and ship them by UPS Ground as "firearm parts" as long as neither box contains a functioning firearm. Even better, you can ship "firearms parts" from any authorized UPS shipper such as The UPS Store.
I contacted Fed Ex and they will not allow any firearm, assembled or disassembled, to be shipped by Fed Ex Ground. It must be shipped by Fed Ex Priority Overnight."


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  • bill2740bill2740 Member Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I want to ship my barreled action out of state to be repaired.
    The repair shop has no FFL. UPS wants a FFL to ship.
    Any options??
    Thank you much,

    Bill
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know if I'd trust a "Repair Shop" that didn't have a FFL.
    How does this person suggest you 'legaly' ship the barreled action to him ?
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • bill2740bill2740 Member Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its a metal fabrication shop. Does great welding
    work.

    Bill
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  • oneshyoneshy Member Posts: 417 ✭
    edited November -1
    I have sent many firearms UPS and never been asked for FFL proof. They are overstepping the scope of their service. All they need to know is that it is being sent for repair, and unloaded. It should be sent in such a way as to not be obviously a firearm. UPS has a copy of rules pertaining to firearms shipments that you need to read with the supervisor. I had problems such as this at one office and had to take them step by step to help them translate their own rules. If problems persist with this office go to the next town closest to you and send it as machined parts. I assume you offered the fact that it was a firearm, as many times I have sent rifles without ever being asked what was in the box.
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A "Barrel only" does not require an FFL reciever. A copy of FFL is not required to send a part to any gunsmith or repair faculity. Read the AFT rules to avoid misinformation being disseminated.

    "If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there."

    Edited by - Alpine on 07/18/2002 01:26:05
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    A "Barrel only" does not require an FFL reciever. A copy of FFL is not required to send a part to any gunsmith or repair faculity. Read the AFT rules to avoid misinformation being disseminated.

    "If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there."

    Edited by - Alpine on 07/18/2002 01:26:05

    I want to ship my barreled action As that term normaly denotes the receiver is included in the shipment, the advise about needing a FFL is valid.
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • JIM STARKJIM STARK Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A non-FFL individual that owns a firearm...(a barreled action is considered as a firearm since the "action" is the receiver)may ship that firearm to a repair facillity, without the need of an FFL. As to which carrier is used and / or if it's a handgun or long gun is not part of the discussion...I believe the Gentleman is questioning the need of the recipient...(repair shop /metalsmith)to be a FFL holder...
    I don't know about that, but wouldn't the same laws, rules, principals apply to shipping a handgun to a nickel plater to be refinished??? Does the plating shop have to have a FFL???????

    Edited by - JIM STARK on 07/18/2002 07:56:12
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  • gunner@nwinet.comgunner@nwinet.com Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    US Title 27,part 178.30:
    Out-of-state disposition of firerarms by nonlicensees
    No nonlicensee shall tranfer,sell,trade,give,transport,or deliver any firearm to any other nonlicensee.

    To Oneshy:

    US Title 27,part 178.31
    Delivery by common or contract carrier
    (a)No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transfer or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed importer,licensed manufacturer,licensed dealer,or licensed collector,any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammuntition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped: etc,etc.

    The GunBroker Firearms shipping guide covers all shipping regs very well and has excellent references to the pertinent BATF and USPS regs as well.

    Gunner
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  • JIM STARKJIM STARK Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks gunner those were the words I was looking for....
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