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Site Paint?

E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 2002 in Ask the Experts
I have been looking for some night sites for my Rossi 971 .357(dont laugh its a good gun)and I cant find them anywhere.I was thinking I could get some of the paint I have heard about but what is the best kind?And does anyone know where I could look to maybe find some night sites for this gun?I have looked on trijicons web site and tru-glo and got nothing.I really need to find some the red paint on the sites is really hard to pick up on targets with red or orange x rings.Night sites or the best flourescent paint for sites?Thanks.

Eric S. Williams

Comments

  • mballaimballai Member Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What you want is Bright Sights. They make different color paints and ghost paints that mix with their regular colors that's more visible under low light. I put some orange on my Beretta and it really helps!

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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take it to a gunsmith, have him drill a small hole in the front sight, and install a small fiber tube. Works really well, and is easier to see in daylight than night sights.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • airborneairborne Member Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    leeblackman,

    Like the sound of what you are saying.

    Can you be alittle more specific as to where to drill the small hole in the front sight, and the type of fibre tube?

    Thanks for the in-sight.

    B - BreatheR - RelaxA - AimS - SightS - Squeeze
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have seen sights that have been painted,and they work well.Brownells is a good place to buy it,go with a color that captures your eye in bright conditions as well as night.


    Best!!

    Rugster
  • IAMACLONE_2IAMACLONE_2 Member Posts: 4,725
    edited November -1
    been there done it!, paint just wont cut it!
    the paint tends to lift off & has poor visability
    at night the paint sucks, cant see it!
    follows leeblackmans instructions!, it will WORK!
    my 2 cents - walter
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was reading an article in guns magazine, about a guy who had a custom beretta 92fs stainless (which has a fixed front sight, not replacable) made for his son. And he had a gunsmith drill out a hole and install a tube. There were also small cuts on the sides and top to allow more light transmission thru the tube.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • airborneairborne Member Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    leeblackman,

    Thanks for getting back with response, have a better idea of the concept, will try to find article.

    B - BreatheR - RelaxA - AimS - SightS - Squeeze
  • mballaimballai Member Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FWIW, night sights help your aim, but do not identify the target. You need a light for that. Also, you need light to illuminate a fiberoptic tube. And if you have a light your need for night sights is greatly reduced.

    FYI Bright Sights paint is what Brownells sells.



    Three Precious Metals: Gold, silver and lead
  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Installed night sites on three of my pistols. Wish I had never done it. They are only good in total darkness. Almost imposable to see in low light. I am in the process of locating fiber optics. Have heard there is a company in San Antonio TX.

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  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think that mballai has it about right. Either you have enough light to shoot (AIM) or you don't. So, why then, the popularity of "nite sights"? Part of it is gimmick, I think. Yes, you can see them in the dark--but if you can't see the target.....? In subdued light conditions, where you can see both the sights and the target, is their advantage that significant? How well will you see them after the first muzzle flash? I believe that to shoot well in the dark one must learn to shoot instinctively. Actually do it enough to know where your pistol is pointing, and if you have a little light pay attention only to the front sight and target. This pretty well does away with a need for a luminous rear nite sight, and if your target is far enough away that careful aiming with both a front and rear sight is required for a hit you're probably using the wrong weapon (a carbine or shotgun would better serve your purpose) and you're probably not in that great a danger from the target who is operating under the same handicap of darkness. Painting sights is another matter, as you are distinguishing color vs. luminosity. Unfortunately, red and orange paints will become hard to distingush against a dark background, and light colors like white and yellow are hard to pick up against a light background in daytime, as is luminous paint. This is one of those situations where there is no satisfactory all-around solution. As my eyes age I have found the best solution for me to be bright blaze orange (hunter orange) paint applied only to the serrated sighting plane of the front sight. Tremendously visible in daylight, fair against dark backgrounds like in the woods, presents no advantage or disadvantage at night. Generally, I can't see the back sight anymore anyway; but can see the front sight just fine. I tried a number of paints, but the best one I have found so far is Pactra, which is hobby paint for painting models. I buy a new jar and leave the lid off for a couple of days until it starts to thicken. Then I put the pistol/revolver in a padded bench vise with the barrel pointing at the floor at an approx. 45 degree angle so that the rear surface of the sight is horizontal. I degrease the surface to be painted with 1.1.1 trichlorethane. Then I apply the thickened paint with a plastic toothpick in a heavy application. Very durable and easy to repaint; but I haven't had to repaint one yet. If a little runs over onto the sides it is easly scraped off with a sharp knife blade. You'd be surprised at how many customers have asked if I could do that to their sight; a request easily accompished in 10 minutes plus drying time.
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