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1911 Colt Auto

YosemitesamYosemitesam Member Posts: 89 ✭✭
edited July 2002 in Ask the Experts
O.K now I need some more answers on my 1911 45. I have 3 questions. If my serial numbers show it was made by Colt USN shouldn't it say Navy on it insted of Army???? Or does that make any difference? The second question is where are the marks on the clips to show who made them. I have 7 clips and 3 have no markings at all and the others have a cr on them on the base where the lip sticks out. I also have and extra barrel and I am not sure of the how it would be marked to determine who made it. There is an s on it so do I assume[and that is risky] that it was made by springfield? I would appreciate knowing the answers as I am trying to determine if the piece is all original with proper parts but do not know exactly how to identify the parts properly. Itwas stolen and I know the grips are not original as I had to put plastic checkered one on it to replace the Mexican silver ones they had put on it.
Thanks in advance
Yo-Sam
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  • RancheroPaulRancheroPaul Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let me try to help a little, here. First of all, if the Serial Number of this gun is in the range to make it U.S.Navy delivered gun, then the slide would have been marked as U.S.Navy. Many times, slides have been changed in arsenal reconditioning, parts swapping, etc. Without the proper slide to match the frame, you have a mismatched gun. This badly detracts from any collector value. No, a Navy gun is not marked "Army."

    Original early magazines weren't stamped with manufacturers names, marks, etc. No need for such as no one made "after market" magazines in the early 1900's. You needed a Colt magazine, you bought it from Colt.

    Not being knowledgeable in other brands than Colt, I cannot say who might have made the barrel marked with an "S." I can say, it is doubtful that it is made by Colt. Hope this is a little help.

    If You Can't Buy a Pair, Get a Spare!
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The C-R mags were WWII contract mags made by Risdon for Colt.

    Neal
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  • YosemitesamYosemitesam Member Posts: 89 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well thanks to you both. I found another site dealing with Colt 1911s and it shows that the X number I have was a stolen gun that was reworked at the Springfield armory. That X was the confusing factor on this gun. Therefor it would not be a Navy model with the Army slide. And it also states that after 1915 the Navy pieces were also marked Army. So thanks again and it would appear I have my questions answered. Now I need to checka nd see if it was registered when it was reworked as it said some were.
    Thanks
    Yo-Sam
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  • llibllib Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The position of the "S" on the barrel will indicate whether it was Springfield or Commercial sale.

    wcreel@ccms.net
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  • llibllib Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    W.W.I mags could have A, B, R on the top, R on the bottom or L stamped on them. Colt mags were unmarked. REM-UMC mags were unmarked but the lip of the base was shorter than the Colt. Spr. Ary. mags had the sides folded over the base.

    wcreel@ccms.net
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