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AK47 or AK74 or AK103

ratspakratspak Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
edited July 2002 in Ask the Experts
Which Rifle is better than the other and of which manufacture is the better? Norinco ? Romanian ? Russian ? Never had any of them yet..Thinking about a first of this type purchase. I want something that is somewhat accurate also. Suggestions from out there??? appreciate an opinion.



Edited by - ratspak on 07/24/2002 19:20:43
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It all depends on what your idea of "fairly accurate" is.

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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For accuracy the FN Fal (Not a cheap throw together Century Arms) is head, shoulders and a buffaunt hair style above the AK's.
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll second that royc38! I've seen a few of the cheap throw togethers that shot 2-3" at 100 with surplus ammo which I concider good concidering ammo and weapon. I think 6-8" is typical for an AK, some do better ... some also do worse.

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  • ratspakratspak Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The good FN-FAL's I've seen that are "good" are a bit expensive. I was thinking about a Russian AK47 in 7.62x39 since ammo seems to be everywhere. Just as far as keeping costs down and having fun plinking.I was just wondering how much you have to spend to get a good FN? AK47 and AK74 is around $400.00 or less now.
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  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792 ✭
    edited November -1
    Don't forget the Spanish CETME that is avail now. It is the predessesor to the HK91 and G1 and as long as you don't reload (Fluted Chamber ruins brass) should come in under your 400 mark.

    SOG has them now for 299. Once you add shipping and handling and transfer fees for you dealer(nobody works for free)it should be in your price range. I have a Bulgarian SLR95 AK, FrankenFAL, and a CETME and am pleased with all.

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  • gravediggergravedigger Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Everyone needs an AK. For cheap plinking, yopu can't beat 'em. As mentioned before, they are by no means a tack-driver, but just a fun gun to shoot. I'm thinking of getting an AK-74 soon as well.

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  • hobbisthobbist Member Posts: 176 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can tell only about AK-47. My experience includes Soviet not Russian, Chinese and Romanian. Without any doubts Soviet AK-47 is the best, Chinese is next and Romanian just a junk I bought it because it cheap. I doubt you will able to find and afford real Soviet AK-47, I am not talking about new ersatz Russian ak-47. But Chinese are very close in quality and performance. Good luck.
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  • ratspakratspak Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In recent days I have been leaning more toward the AK74 or the AK 103 which is really nice!
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  • IAMACLONE_2IAMACLONE_2 Member Posts: 4,725
    edited November -1
    LOOK AT THE SAR1 AK74 ROMIANIAN IN 5.54X39 - 100YD 2" GROUPS THIS IS THE NEW CALIBER TO REPLACE THE AK47 762X39 THAT WAS STARTED IN 1974
    THEY SELL FROM $350 TO $500
    IN THE MID-EAST & RUSSIA THE 5.54X39 IS STANDARD ISSUE

    5.54X39 AMMO RUNS APX $89 - $94 PER 1,000

    AS FOR A QUALITY IN AK'S I THINK THE POLY TECH WITH THE CHROMED BARREL & BOLT ASSY'S ARE BEST, BUT THEY ARE EXPENSIVE STATRTING AROUND $800

    THE SAR2 762X39 ROMIANIAN SELLS FOR $285 TO $350, THEY ARE ROUGH, BUT ARE GOOD PLINKERS WITH AMMO GOING FOR APX $89 PER 1,000

    THE SAR3 IN .223 RUN APX $325 TO $350, BUT MAGS are expensive & dont feed very well, if you want a .223 get a ar-15

    walte
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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Russian AK-47 is very dependable and made better than the Norinco's. But the other guys had some better Ideas.


    Best!!

    Rugster
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  • Rifleman.308Rifleman.308 Member Posts: 101 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is a definite hierarchy of quality and availability, and hence a definite hierarchy of price, when considering AK-47 type rifles. Milled receiver rifles tend to be of much better quality throughout, but are offset by lesser availability, higher price, and heavier weight.

    Soviet and/or Russian milled rifles are very scarce, and therefore expensive. If I had to rate quality, I would rate any Soviet rifle I've seen as equal or even slightly inferior to the Yugoslavian rifles imported by Mitchell prior to the ban (all milled). A Yugo rifle in excellent or 97%+ condition will set you back $1,500 or more, but the quality is extremely good.

    I would next look to Polytech rifles, such as the Legend. Milled, of generally good quality, and will withstand the fires of hell. Norinco has stamped receivers are are inferior to Polytech in attention to detail, fit, and overall quality of materials. For this reason, Polytech rifles tend to go for $100 or more than Norinco rifles, depending on condition.

    Bulgarian rifles are milled, of quite good quality, and were popular immediately following the 1994 ban. A good choice if one can be found, but watch out for illegal post-ban modifications which would make possession of the rifle illegal (even if you didn't do the modifying).

    Next in line are the Maadi, Romanian, and kit rifles. Stamped receivers and generally poor quality, but available in great numbers.

    AKs are an absolute hoot at the range, so long as you don't intend to hit the 10-ring with any frequency.

    Good luck. Remember to vote. Join an organization. Protect yourself and your rights.
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