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Glass bedding ???? improvement???

BlueTicBlueTic Member Posts: 4,072
edited March 2004 in Ask the Experts
I recently purchased a Rem. 700 Mountain KS in .280. I have taken it to the range 2 times and have not been impressed with it's accuracy (also note - it is scoped with a 3x9x40 Bausch&Lomb) I thought I'd check all components and found that the stock is not bedded to the reciever. I knew the barrel was not free floated, but figured at least they would have used some type of glue/bedding for the kevlar stock. I have read that this is an improvement - but how much are we talkin here. The components that were on the rifle (most will be changed) Open sights, Weaver bases/rings, scope. Wish list - Leupold bases/rings/scope, adjustable trigger.

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  • Salvage33Salvage33 Member Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have options here...bed the action, float the barrel. Or bed the action AND the barrel...but bedding the action is one thing you gotta do. Second, try a different load on the ammo you're shooting. It's strange, but each barrel likes a different load. They will all shoot okay, but if you reload, you can find the exact load/bullet weight that your rifle LOVES. It takes a little time, but it is well worth it.

    As for what you have now..check the scope bases and rings, make sure that they are secure and not moving around.

    My two cents worth..

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  • rrfhunterrrfhunter Member Posts: 187 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It sounds like you may have bought the rig used. I have purchased used rifles with scopes only to find the scope was messed up internally and the zero shifter from shot to shot. I changed scopes and went from 6" groups to .5" !

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  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bedding is always a good idea. But for the record I've seen and owned some Rem. Mountain Rifles that just would not shoot a good 3 shot group.The pencil bbls on them get hot fast. The two I've got are very acceptable for hunting ( what they are made for) but not good for target shooting. Even after bedding they will only group the first two shots closely together( fine for hunting) and then the third always flies...........good luck.........[8D]
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  • SnellstromSnellstrom Member Posts: 1,085 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm with RRFhunter I too have purchased several rifles cheap for the shear fact that they didn't shoot well. One of them needed the best barrel scrubbing you could ever imagine and that worked, two others had scope problems. If I were you I'd put a known accurate scope on it ( something temporarily off of another rifle that you have shot and know it does well), make sure all mounts and rings are tight and try it again. I wouldn't be afraid to leave the Weaver rings and bases on it they aren't my favorites but I've got a rifle with them on there that shoots .75" at 100 yards, meant to change it but never got around to it cuz' it shoots so darn good. After that go to the bedding, lot's of guns shoot well with free floated barrels and a bedded action.
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  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had a Mt.Rifle in 280 that shot pretty well after I adjusted the factory trigger,but I glass bedded it and free floated it to see what it would do.It went from 1.5 groups to half inch.The only problem I had with it was the safety was so stiff it was hard to release quietly in a tree stand.
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  • savage12bvss300wsmsavage12bvss300wsm Member Posts: 106 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well here is the thing. Bedding an action provides a solid stable platform for attaching the stock to the barreled action. Without this, the action can "flex" when the screws are tightened. And this causes accuracy to go south in a hurry. As a rule barrels with very light contours usually benefit from a pressure point near the fore end. That will have to be a trial and error thing. But I would not have a rifle that didn't at least have the action bedded. I prefer pillar bedding and also using a material like devcon, marine tex, or accra glass to really make sure that thing is bedded in there. As for an adjustable trigger, you already have one. It can be adjusted down to safe pull weights of 20oz by a competent gunsmith. The remington trigger is a good one unless you are shooting competition. So first, check the optics and mounts. And then go have that thing bedded. Try free floating the barrel. If that doesnt help, you can always build the pressure point back up. Also make sure the action is sitting squarely in the stock and not cocked to one side. That creates unwanted pressure points as well.

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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bed the action!! I have a buddy with a KS in 300winmag who shot a 5 shot group into 5" at 600yds with that pencil barrel. Bedding will provide the aformentioned stablity,..but sometimes they need a 14-16lb upward pressure at the end of the stock. this can be done with a dab of epoxy and a good gunsmith with the tools to measure the upwrad pressure. I will however bet that with the correct load that rifle will go well under 1moa with no work at all.

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