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Beretta 92F jamming

JoshuaKoontsJoshuaKoonts Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
edited November 2010 in Ask the Experts
My Beretta 92F after several hundred rounds with no problem is jamming. It's failing to eject the shell and failing to reload the chamber. I am shooting with 9mm Luger Federal and PMC rounds. Not firing under heated conditions. What should I do to remedy the situation? This gun is very sentimental to me. I am shooting with 4 High Capacity magazines stamped 9mm Beretta P B.

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  • JoshuaKoontsJoshuaKoonts Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Beretta 92F after several hundred rounds with no problem is jamming. It's failing to eject the shell and failing to reload the chamber. I am shooting with 9mm Luger Federal and PMC rounds. Not firing under heated conditions. What should I do to remedy the situation? This gun is very sentimental to me. I am shooting with 4 High Capacity magazines stamped 9mm Beretta P B.
  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    After mags, continue with simple. Make sure you lock-up your wrist, elbow & shoulder. Berettas need to be lubricated. Grease tends to last longer than oil.
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First thing to try is simply to clean it.

    Berettas are highly reliable, but any gun can get clogged with fouling, etc.

    After taking it down, make sure you brush out the chamber well, and make sure there is no dirt or other particles underneath or interfering with the ejector function.

    While you've got the gun taken down, take a good look and make sure there are no obviously broken or deformed parts. That's unlikely, but you might as well check.


    Edit: Sorry, I meant "extractor" above, rather than "ejector".

    Assuming its a factory spring, that's probably not the problem, unless its obviously kinked or damaged, or has a gazillion rounds through it. Still, a new spring costs under $10, so its not like it will hurt you too badly to try this (after all else fails).

    Since you said you tried four different mags, then that can't be the problem (well, assuming your mags are factory ones designed for your gun, that is!).

    I agree with the above. If the gun suddenly won't toss the empties clear, then an extractor malfunction is a fairly likely source of the problem. Dirt or grime lodged UNDER the extractor can prevent it from functioning. So can a damaged or worn extractor or extractor spring. Prior use of steel case ammo, in particular, can increase wear and tear on the extractor hook (from sticky cases).

    Again, just take a good close look at the extractor to see if its OK. Make sure the hook on the extractor isn't chipped, worn, or bent. See if you can manually get it to rock in place, as its supposed to. As mentioned, the extractor should grip the base of the cartridge and hold it against the slide breech, if functioning normally. You should be able to get a look at this from the bottom with the slide off the gun.

    One other thing you can try is just to put a mag full of live rounds in the gun then MANUALLY rack the slide repeatedly and see if they eject. Note that you have to be CAREFUL when doing this! Keep your finger OFF the trigger and the muzzle pointed in a safe direction (ie outside at the ground}).

    If you want to take a REALLY good look at the extractor, or find that you need to replace it, here is how you remove it (proceed at your own risk):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FiYzxdy2A

    If it happens that you need one, a new extractor assembly will run about $30.
  • JoshuaKoontsJoshuaKoonts Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    After a thorough cleaning and lubricating process the jams persist. Now what?
  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look at the locking block real good for wear or cracks. With the barrel out of the slide, put a loaded round up under the extractor and check tension. It should hold the round by it self.
  • ltslts Member Posts: 811 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    sounds like extractor time.
  • JoshuaKoontsJoshuaKoonts Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do you think its probable that a new spring would clear up the issue?
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    www.berettasupport.com
    or 800 beretta
  • hooligan1sevenhooligan1seven Member Posts: 50 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I may offer my humble opinion, you need to be more clear on the type of malfunction that your Berretta is having. Is it failing to feed? If so it could be poor quality magazines. The military ones are known to be substandard and don't properly feed consistently. Ensure that you have actual Berretta brand magazines, military ones again are no good. Is the weapon stove-piping? Is it not clearing the feed lip? I am admittedly not a 92F expert but do know that the military mags suck, and 80% or more malfunctions with an M4 occur to improper maintenance; i.e. having a dirty weapon. I think if you clarify the malfunction more people will be able to better assist you.

    Best
  • JoshuaKoontsJoshuaKoonts Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    holligan1seven, to answer your first two questions, as I said before I am shooting out of 4 high capacity magazines and the gun is not being fired in heated conditions. The extractor port is clinging on to the rim of the casing during extraction. Occasionally I'll fire a shot and the entire slide doesn't recoil, it doesnt even attempt to eject the round. Does that help better paint the picture?

    wpage thanks for the good info.
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JoshuaKoonts
    holligan1seven, to answer your first two questions, as I said before I am shooting out of 4 high capacity magazines and the gun is not being fired in heated conditions. The extractor port is clinging on to the rim of the casing during extraction. Occasionally I'll fire a shot and the entire slide doesn't recoil, it doesnt even attempt to eject the round. Does that help better paint the picture?

    wpage thanks for the good info.

    I'm not entirely clear on what you are describing. Are you saying the extractor hook is appropriately grabbing the case rim?

    I don't understand how its even possible for the slide not to recoil during firing.

    For that not to happen, either the round has to be defective, or there has to be a mechanical obstruction physically blocking the slide.

    A defective magazine or too-hard recoil spring could prevent the slide from going all the way back during recoil, but that's a bit of a different thing.

    Again, what happens when you load a magazine and manually rack the slide (CAREFULLY WITH THE MUZZLE POINTED IN A SAFE DIRECTION)?

    Does the slide go back smoothly, or do you feel something rough or snagging?

    Do the rounds eject smartly and get tossed clear of the gun?

    What happens if you load just ONE round and fire it? Does it eject?
  • hooligan1sevenhooligan1seven Member Posts: 50 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, I was pretty tired when I wrote that response and didn't pay enough attention to what you had originally posted. The only thing I can come up with is lack of lubrication or a dirty weapon. I don't think that it is either of those. I got nothin for you, sorry.[xx(]

    quote:Originally posted by JoshuaKoonts
    holligan1seven, to answer your first two questions, as I said before I am shooting out of 4 high capacity magazines and the gun is not being fired in heated conditions. The extractor port is clinging on to the rim of the casing during extraction. Occasionally I'll fire a shot and the entire slide doesn't recoil, it doesnt even attempt to eject the round. Does that help better paint the picture?

    wpage thanks for the good info.
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