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PPK or ???

seb1999seb1999 Member Posts: 343 ✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in Ask the Experts
I would really like to have a Walther Pocket Pistol but have not yet saved the required $ for a good quality used .32ACP.

I have been looking at clones and was wondering if the KBI or CZ 70 or Bersa or FEG PA-63 might be a viable alternative. Not withstanding the calibre difference - Bersa .380 vs .32 how would these guns rank re functionality and durability. I realize that .32 is not a good "carry" calibre but all I want is a nice shooter in the PPK design.

Would the Makarov w/ an alloy frame be a candidate?

Does anyone have first hand ownership experience?
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  • grizzclawgrizzclaw Member Posts: 1,159 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm sitting here with a FEG in my pocket right now. It's a ,32, older model, and I love it! It's a fantastic shooter, functions perfectly, and I figure that with proper shot placement, it should get the job done. I can't tell you about the other guns.

    Thanks, Grizztribefans@sssnet.com
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  • Rafter-SRafter-S Member Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have owned several Walther PP's and PPK's in 32ACP. They are great pistols--all functioned flawlessly, and shot where aimed. I think they are adequate personal defence pistols in that you can rapid fire the 32 and stack 5 rounds almost on top of each other in about 3 seconds (10 yards). I have owned both the Walther brand and the French Mannurin (sp?) which is made under the Walther license. You can't go wrong with either one.

    As far as other guns are concerned, they may be OK. But personally, I would rather have a Walther or Mannurin.
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  • Guns & GlassGuns & Glass Member Posts: 864 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look at the CZ 83. Far superior to both the Walther PPK's and Sig P230/232.

    Happy Bullet Holes!
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a CZ50 in .32, and it works fine; although not as well finished as a Walther, it was < $100. However, the CZ and the PPK are both a little large to be considered a true "pocket pistol".

    My thought is that if you plan to spend > $300, you'd be better off buying a compact 9mm that is both smaller and more powerful.

    Neal
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  • CCS243CCS243 Member Posts: 40 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are considering the PPK or /S, get it in .380, not .32ACP

    Art
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  • NOTPARSNOTPARS Member Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For Grizzclaw,

    If this gets posted twice, I apologize. I've had some tendon, bone and nerve removed from my elbows and I sometimes my hands don't follow orders. I just hit some key and whatever I was typing is, well, gone.

    Anyway, I am often on the Makarov and AK-47.net websites and they are great (some real crusty fellows though). Lately, the FEG PA-63 has been getting trashed out. It seems as if folks either love them or hate them. What is your take on this?

    I have an older Manurhin .380 in blue steel and love it. It is smoother, more accurate, and not as gritty as my wife's new Walther PPK/S in stainless. Admittedly, the Walther has only had 100 rounds through it but the Manurhin was fine out of the box. I used to qualify with it on a 25 yard range too!!! Are the Manurhin's available anywhere anymore?

    I do a lot of hiking in the woods. Depending on the weather and my mood, I either take along a Ruger Sp-101 five shot .357 stainless pistol, or the .380s.

    Kahr makes both a 9mm and .40 caliber whose standard frame is pretty compact. I looked at a mini-Kahr in .40 but couldn't imagine shooting such a potent caliber in such a small frame. Maybe the 9mm?

    Anyway, I would have to agree with the other posters, start with the .380 and go up. Personally, I'm not interested in the.32
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a PP (which, by the way, is Police Pistol, not Pocket Pistol) from WWII. It still functions perfectly! Keep saving your money, it is worth the wait.
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  • grizzclawgrizzclaw Member Posts: 1,159 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Notpars, I can't even tell you for sure if mine is a 63 or not. I've looked in my books and couldn't find anything on it. It's not a 2-tone, it has a blue slide, and a blue/black frame. It says on the slide: Cal. 7.65 Browning, under that it says:Made in Hunguary FEG Budapest. I can't make out the import markings, but it's not the common importers. I like used guns that I don't have to worry about, and this is one of them. It shoots really nice, functions flawlessly, and fits my hand well. It rests in a Bianchi suede in-the-waistband, that also fits in my front pocket. As far as the caliber, until you actually shoot someone, how do you know if it's not any good. The 32 has been around for a long time, it's been used in police and military applications so that must say some thing for the caliber. People that form opinions from what other people write, without any experimentation on there own part really shouldn't try to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't use. The damn thing goes boom every time I pull the trigger, I hit what I aim at,and It will make you bleed. This is just my opinion.

    Thanks, Grizztribefans@sssnet.com
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  • martzkj@msn.commartzkj@msn.com Member Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look for the manurhin's. They are just as good as the walther's and cheaper. They were made in France under walther's Licensing, after Walther was forced to stop making guns in germany after WWII. Atleast this is the story I read on the net. My box says Manurhin Walther on it. I really like mine.
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  • rsnyder55rsnyder55 Member Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If can settle for a PP in .32 ACP, quite a few German Police tradeins made it into the country for around $150.00. You may be able to find someone who got one and no longer wants it.
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  • gundummygundummy Member Posts: 254 ✭
    edited November -1
    Save your money and get the real thing if that's what you've been saving for. You won't regret it. And there's nothing wrong with the the .32 either. There are true stories that a .45 was not able to do the job (shoulder or MISS) yet a .22 did (between the eyes or NUTS)because of shot placement. That's what it's all about. PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE....PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT. I have just about all the pistol calibers right now , yet carry both my .32 & .45 equally, sometimes together if I am in the hoods.
    Just my .02 cents. GD
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  • gundummygundummy Member Posts: 254 ✭
    edited November -1
    Save your money and get the real thing if that's what you've been saving for. You won't regret it. And there's nothing wrong with the the .32 either. There are true stories that a .45 was not able to do the job (shoulder or MISS) yet a .22 did (between the eyes or NUTS)because of shot placement. That's what it's all about. PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE....PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT. I have just about all the pistol calibers right now , yet carry both my .32 & .45 equally, sometimes together if I am in the hoods.
    Just my .02 cents. GD
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  • gundummygundummy Member Posts: 254 ✭
    edited November -1
    Save your money and get the real thing if that's what you've been saving for. You won't regret it. And there's nothing wrong with the the .32 either. There are true stories that a .45 was not able to do the job (shoulder or MISS) yet a .22 did (between the eyes or NUTS)because of shot placement. That's what it's all about. PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE....PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT. I have just about all the pistol calibers right now , yet carry both my .32 & .45 equally, sometimes together if I am in the hoods.
    Just my .02 cents. GD
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