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Shipping Firearms

rastilesrastiles Member Posts: 156 ✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in Ask the Experts
Could someone help me? I am a non-licensee FFL. How are non-FFL holders supposed to ship firearms? What is the best way? I have sold a couple at auction and I've had real difficulty finding someone to ship them. And also, they are wanting outrageous prices. When I see other ads for shipping for $15-20 what means are these people using? Please advise. Thank you
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  • rastilesrastiles Member Posts: 156 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm being told by a seller that fireams that are shipped by UPS OR FED EX ,must be shipped next day air or over night express . And so he wants $43 to ship a mod 10 from Indiana to Washington . Is this guy trying to rip me off or what. He is a first time seller with no feedback . also he didn't give a shipping cost in the auction . I have told him I won't pay more than $25 , which I think is fair .I think He can ship it us mail priority for $3.50 .
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  • rastilesrastiles Member Posts: 156 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gentlemen: please help me out on this question,first of all I live in the "crap" state of California. I want to ship a rifle to be repaired to a FFL holding gunsmith in the state of Wyoming. I have asked shippers if they will ship it for me. I have been advised that I need to ship it thru a FFL dealer to my FFL repair dealer. This puts an added cost to the item to be repaired. Are they right????[V] Please advise.[8]
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  • rastilesrastiles Member Posts: 156 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I live in Pennsylvania, and may need to ship a firearm to the manufacturer in Florida. What is the best/legal manner to ship a firearm without aggravating the authorities? I understand that the USPS does not allow pistols to be shipped, but have heard that UPS allows shipping via overnight express?! Any suggestions? As usual, any information is appreciated.
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  • 74cuda74cuda Member Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are you trying to ship, long guns or handguns?



    "In God We Trust........All Others Go Thru NCIC"
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have to ship them UPS or FedEx next day air. They both rip you off for $25. And they can only be shipped to an FFL dealer. Isn't freedom great?

    PC=BS
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hand guns have to go by air
    Long guns can go by ground
    There is only one extra charge, compaired to a non-gun package, (at my UPS office) and that was 2.50 for a "Adult over 21 signature" sticker.
    The receiver needs to be a FFL holder, having your copy of their liscense with you might prevent some questions at the counter.
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    UPS and FEDEX clerks often refuse to accept firearms from non-licensees unless the package is declared as "firearm for repair". Of course, this is not exactly the truth, but it's legal.

    FEDEX requires that all firearms be "disabled".

    Neal
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  • martzkj@msn.commartzkj@msn.com Member Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Long guns can be shipped UPS ground. You must have a signed copy of the receiving dealers FFL. Handguns are best to take to a dealer. They can ship them USPS. If you ship a hand gun, You have to send it UPS of FED-EX next day air. So it's usually cheaper to go to a dealer for handguns, If you can find someone reasonable. They usually charge $20-25(dealers) to ship a handgun, if you have the packing all ready and all they need to do is take the info from the gun and tape up the box.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Martz, I just shipped my rifle off for repair yesterday, all UPS asked me was if the address was to a dealer / FFL holder. I only suggested taking a copy along incase you run into a dumb clerk.
    Of course up here in the woods people think a little differently than them "flat-lander city folk" (my mail-lady is a avid hunter who normaly gets bigger deer ,every year, than her husband does)
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • ddhotbotddhotbot Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ok guys educate me,i am getting ready too lists a mini 14 .i have never sold a gun on here,i am not an ffl holder.what will it costs me to ship this gun approx?then i have too pay a ffl holder too do the paper work.so lets say i have $300 in the gun ,so i lists it for $300 and i tell the buyer they have too pay shipping ,i am still out the $20 (approx) too the dealer and the commision charges from the auction site correct? so in order too break even i best figure this in too my starting price.dont know if this is the right way too go as opposed too just lugging it too the next gun show and selling it on the floor .what you all think? thanks don
    keep on bangin boys
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don, it's not that difficult.

    First, if you take it to a show, you can only sell it to a dealer or a resident of your state, assuming that your state permits such a sale to an individual.

    If you sell it through an online auction, you still can only sell it to a resident of your state (law permitting), a dealer in any state, or a resident of another state THROUGH HIS DEALER. You can ship it directly to the dealer once you have a signed copy of his FFL; your listing should state that the buyer pays actual shipping cost. Once you have a sale and know the receiving dealer's zip code, you need to pack the rifle and weigh and measure the package; use the UPS/FEDEX website calculators to determine the exact charge, and add that to the amount that the buyer is to send you. Your only additional expense will be the auction fee.

    Neal
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  • ddhotbotddhotbot Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    THANKS NEAL ,I THINK I AM GOING TOO GIVE IT A TRY .I HAVE A DEALER WHO WILL HANDLE PAPERWORK FOR ME FOR $25.IS THIS ABOUT THE GOING PRICE? DON
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  • martzkj@msn.commartzkj@msn.com Member Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NO DON DON"T DO IT. You don't need to pay a dealer anything. You can ship it yourself to the purchasers receiving dealer. Just make sure you get a signed copy of the FFL from the receiving dealer. Package it yourself and take it to UPS. This usually only costs about $10.00. If you keep the shipping down bidders like that.
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  • nelchrisnelchris Member Posts: 557 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DIDO ,BUYERS DEALER SENDS YOU HIS FFL,YOU SEND YOUR LONG GUN AFTER YOU GET THE CASH OF COURSE
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  • gundummygundummy Member Posts: 254 ✭
    edited November -1
    You can also send long guns via USPS as long as it is shipped to an FFL holder. You can't use USPS for hand guns unless you have an FFL, so you are better off having a dealer ship it via USPS. Depending on what your dealer charges for his/her fees, it's usually cheaper because they can use the USPS. That's why you see some hand gun auctions list shipping for only $10.00. Either seller has FFL or he's got a buddy who has one. GD
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  • XP100XP100 Member Posts: 435 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only problem not shipping from an FFL is even if there is a 3 day return policy the FFL can not return the gun to the Non licensee shipper. I got a POS gun from an auction and am now stuck with it because it came from an individual.
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  • PiadeaPiadea Member Posts: 146 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Use a dealer. Less hassles, less responsibilty, and when it comes time for a gun to be shipped to you...
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