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Winchester model 12

chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
edited April 2002 in Ask the Experts
Looking for a model 12 in 20ga. or 12ga. made in 1953. What ser. # range would I be looking for?
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I purchased a 20ga. today. It needs a little restoration to make it a respectable quail gun. However when I got home with her, I thought I knew how to break the gun down(it is a take down model). Igot it apart but can't seem to get her back togather! Can someone help? Does the bolt need to be forward as in closed?[:(]
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    hello all, just wanted to post in here i get good answers for here all the time.I picked up a winchester model 12 a few days ago and cant find a date when this was produced.The serial # is 1158**.Planing on redoing it have about 30 dollars in at this point and wondered if it was worth redoing
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12, with a 6 digit serial number that begins with the number "3". I'm trying to find out what it might be worth for insurance purposes and coverage.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Do any of you guys in here have a ideal about how much a Winchester Model 12 w/Cutts Compensator installed with one choke would be worth and also can you tell me when this gun was made, The receiver has these numbers on it 932713 and the none vented barrel has these 932886 and the choke has 690. Any info. would be great! I wish to thank you all ahead of time.
    Chris[:p]
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have been charged with saleing an estates gun colection. One of the components of this collection is 5 Minchester Model 12's. In my search it seem that there are many verations of the model 12 but no information how to tell one grade from another. I have look for serial # ref and cant find one and also bought a Blue Book Sub. But agin the information is there, if you know what you have. So here is the list of the 5 can anyone help me. I would like to list them on gunbroker for sale but need to know what i am saleing so as not to miss lead any one. any way here they are pleas help if you can. Thanks
    2 Winchester 12 12ga 2 3/4in imp cyl. Made in New Haven Conneticut USA venelated rib simmons gun specialist kansas city MO 1319xxx-- 8
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    16 Winchester 12 12ga modified barrel 1506xxx-- 6
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    17 Winchester 12 featherweight 12ga improved cylinder 18104xxF -- 8
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    18 Winchester 12 12ga full Y2014xxx-- 9
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    21 Winchester 12 12ga Modified 1904xxx-- 7
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    the # afteer -- is condition on scale of 1 to 10 10 being new in box. The # at the beginning is the gun # on my list

    ok i have added the serial # and some pics i x out the last 2 or 3 digits as sugested
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Over the years I've bought and sold a couple of Model 12's that have a "wing" on the shell follower seemingly there to prevent the shell from the magazine from falling out the ejection port. M97"s had something similar on all guns but on the model 12's they're on some but not all. I thought it was some mod that Winchester did away with at some point but last week I bought one that was made in 1947ish that had the "wing".
    I have a couple M12's made well prior to 1947 that don't have this feature. What's the story on this? None of the "experts" at skeet club have any idea.

    Thanks,

    Riley P.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a winchester model 12 16 ga serial#713703. It is in decent shape. I was wondering how to know how old it is. Also, I have a slug barrel for it with matching serial numbers. How would this effect the value, if it would.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I'm looking at a model 12 duck gun serial #1331757 Would like to know when it was made and anything I should look for as to operating condition be for I buy it. Not a collector just always wanted one,plan on using it for water fowl. Thanks Jay
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Can someone tell me what and where the difference is in the .12 and a .20ga. stock ? is it in the wrist ? I need a .20 and can't find any on E-bay but there's always a few .12's and I was thinking about trying to modifiy one to fit, is this possible ?
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Hello experts.....a friend has a model 12 built in 1941. Serial number is L893240. What does the L represent? Thanks and take care, B.C..
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a pre-WW2 model 12 in nickel steel with 30 inch full choke in good condition and am wanting a value on this gun.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Does anyone know if winchester made a model 12 with a 36" barrel?

    Dustin K. Griffin
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    What is the difference between the guns stamped 1912 and the guns
    stamped model 12, besides age?
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Hello, can I get someone to date a Winchester Model 12 for me? Serial Number 1589604 Thank You.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I am looking for a Winchester model 12 trap pump shotgun to replace which was purchased in the 1920's or within ten years either way.
    If I cannot locate one I want to replace it with a similar type of shotgun with long term value and quality. Does any know of a web site to purchase such an item? Any suggestions on a same quality gun to purchase for long term value and investment?

    Sincerely,
    RUSTY DOG
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I inherited my father's Winchester Model 12 shotgun and would like to determine it's worth. I know it's a pre-1964 12 gaugw qith a 2 3/4" chamber. It needs to be recondishioned as it has some rust marked on the barrel and there is some water damage to the stock. Any ideas on what the low end value would be?
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 that belonged to my GGrandfather. Shotgun is in real good shape. I was told by an Uncle that the gun was reblued and it has a polychoke on the barrel. Reblueing is real good also if it has. I was wondering if the value of the shotgun is destroyed. I love this old gun and if the value is destoyed I was going to configure it for rabbit and quail. Shorten stock and barrel. I need some opinions. According to the serial numbers this gun was manufatured in 1935. Thanks Sam.

    Sam Mashburn Jr.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I'm looking for a Model 12 collector for advise. I bought a Model 12 Heavy Duck, 3", 30 barrel with a solid rib a while back. It was in pretty sad shape, and since I had no intention of re-selling it, I had it reblued, and put 25 coats of Tru Oil on the stripped and sanded stock. I would really like to duck hunt with the gun, but of course I wouldn't shoot steel shot through it, and the alternative shot is outrageously expensive. Since I have probably already spoiled the collector value by refinishing it, I assume that if I had it screw choked to shoot steel shot, I would not be doing any further damage, right??[?]
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a winchester model 12 serial number 305,580 "nickle steel", modified choke, barrell 28" plain, it has a kick pad is that orginial or was that added? The bluing is in very good shape, it has three nicks or dings in the wood. The gun is extremely tight. I would like to know what grade of gun would this be? Skeet or Pigeon? I would like to know what the value of this gun would be as well. Any information you have on this gun will be most helpful.

    Thanks,
    J. Blume

    jamie blume
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 serial number 1861929 I bought this gun about 28 year ago at a Ducks Unlimited Banquet. It has never been fired (What would a ball park figure on the Value be ) without pictures be... it has 23/4 in, chamber /full choke /28" barrel
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a winchester proof steel made in america model 12 12ga full. looking for some information on this item,like year made it has dates on the barrel from 1896 to 1913, if the gun is a collectors item and price range,and what type of hunting or use is this gun used for today thank you for any information
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Morning...

    I have a Winchester Model 12 just given to me by my Grandmother. The gun belonged to her dad who happened to be a sheriff many years ago in North Dakota (the gun was actually confiscated from a poacher and he ended up buying it at auction).

    The gun is in pretty good shape. The serial number 307708. It is a single shot pump with a 28 inch barrel. Not sure what else you'd need, but anyone have an idea how old it is or what it's worth? I would never sell it, just curious of it's history.

    Thanks - you may post a reply if you know, or email me at mraderm946@aol.com
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Can anyone help me date a Winchester Model 12 serial # 14246xx?
    Thanks
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Anyone familiar with Model 12:

    What does the "w" signify below the serial number on some Models 12.

    It appears under the serial number, just at the edge of the magazine chamber.

    Have seen this on a very few, but do not know what it refers to.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a model 12 16ga. With a four diget serial number, the gun was made in 1913. Everything I can find says the 16 ga. was not made until 1914, all parts inside are marked 16.Can anyone give me any information on this gun.
    Thanks
    Ron
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    What is the approximate value (or going rate) of a Winchester Model 12. 20 gauge, made in Japan, vent rib, imp cyl bbl, serial MT03XX, good condition.

    Thank you for your time.



    Edited by - birdietobogey on 06/25/2002 19:16:40
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have my dads old Model 12 Winchester. I started having problems with loading shells into the tube mag. They are not staying in place, they just pop back out. I might be able to figure it out in the end but I'm willing to forfeit that achievement if someone would give me a tip. I have taken it down and cleaned and lubricated everything.

    Thanks
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Can I safely shoot #2 steel shot in a 1961 Model 12, 23/4", modified?
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have the chance to buy a Model 12 with a kuts choke for $200. That's all I know right now. I am in the process of recieving pics of it. I need help with the kuts choke as I am not familiar with it. I heard it is mainly for shooting matches, and that it means the gun is not original which would decrease the value. Any help with this?
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Could some one tell me if a wichester model 1300 trap stock and forearm will fit a winchester model 12? Your help will be appriciated, Thanks
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    What is choke of my 20ga? It's marked WS=1 on barrel. Also winchester proof steel barrel. Is this common or rare? Simmons Rib and 25 1/2 in barrel. Rectangular fore-arm. 1960 model re-blued. Approx. value? Strutt you stuff experts.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 20 GA. that was passed down from my grandfather. I have just recently started hunting and I wondering if I should use this gun or just keep it put away. I ma also trying to find out more about its age and possible value. The stamping reads Winchester proof steel Model 12 20 ga. - full - 2 3/4 chamber. Its serial number is 762172. Thanks.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Was the model 12 20 Ga. made in 26 in. barrel with imp. cyl. bore.? ser. 1315111 date of manufacture?.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    What is the longest barrel made in the winchester model 12 20 guage?

    "Keep turnin to the RIGHT"
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I have a winchester model 12, bought years ago, that has a couple of problems. First, the brass bases of the fired shells have a bulge near the rim, about a quarter of the way around as I remember. (havent shot it in a long time) Second, I had the chamber lengthened and since then the shells stick and are hard to eject. It is a nickle steel barrel and from the looks of the fired cases, the reamer must have chattered and left flutes in the front of the chamber. What do you think of trying to hone it smooth with a wood plug turned to fit it and some grinding compound? Any advise appreciated. I am a fairly competent machinist, but can't call myself a gunsmith.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Can any body help me to find out the age and the place it was first sold, Thanks for any info.
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    edited November -1
    did winchester ever do any factory engraving on the barrel of the mdl 12
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Hi everyone,I seen a model 12 today and it was in perfect condition or near perfect condition.The gun doesn't have a mark on it.It has a 28 inch full choke barrel and it is a 12ga.The serial number is 17021XX.I would like to know what a gun like this is worth.Thanks much Joe.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I would like to find information on my Winchester model 12 12ga. It needs some blueing but it works great. Serial #19173XX
    *What year was it manufactered?
    *What is it worth? $$$
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I just recieved this shotgun from my dad which was given to him by his dad. I'm looking for year of manufacture, and ballpark value, not that I would ever even consider selling it. The shotgun of course is a model 12, 2 3/4 cham, full choke, 30 in bbl, no rib on bbl. I would rate condition at 90 to 95%, all original, no modifications. Serial number 12165XX. Thanks in advance for your time.
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