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WHICH IS THE BETTER .22CAL. PISTOL ?

SCHOONERSCHOONER Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited August 2002 in Ask the Experts
I'm thinking of buying a .22cal. target pistol. And I'm not wanting to compete either. I just want to come up a notch of the Rugers.

Which is the better between these .22cal. target pistols.

SIG ~ TRAILSIDE .22CAL.TARGET
RUGER ~ COMPETITION .22CAL. TARGET
COLTS ~ WOODSMEN/TARGETSMEN
HI-STANDARD ~ SPORTKING

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EXPERTEES













RAY MONACO

Comments

  • rick_renorick_reno Member Posts: 186
    edited November -1
    Is that a new High Standard you're looking at? One of them made in Houston? Is that's it, stay clear of them. They have problems...

    A lot of the shooters in our Bullseye league shoot the Ruger competition guns. Most of the others shoot the older (Hamden made) High Standards - which are very good. I haven't seen anyone using the Sig Trailside or the Colt. Another gun in the same general price range of what you're looking at is the Baikal target gun. You can read about them here http://izh.petebrunelli.com/ CDNN has these pistols for around $370 last time I looked, which is in the ballpark of the other guns you're looking at. I'm sure it's a notch up from most of the Rugers.
    Do you have a 1911 frame to put a conversion kit on? The most accurate one that functions right is from Marvel - you can read about them here http://www.marvelprecision.com/
  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
    edited November -1
    I second the idea of an older High Standard. Not the Sprt King model though. Try for a Victor, Citation or Trophy. Also every now and then you can luck up on a decent used S&W41 in the same price range.

    rick-reno, how are you and the new 'dini' doing. Did you have to do a little fine tuning on the extra mags? Which round did yours prefer?

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  • rscoleman88rscoleman88 Member Posts: 4,250
    edited November -1
    I've had a Ruger MK II that my father bought years ago. Best shootin pistol I ever did see. MY .02

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  • 25-0625-06 Member Posts: 382 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Colt Match Targets were fine guns. They were offered in 4" and 6" barrel lengths. You might not like the angle of the grip, it is slanted more than the High Standards and Rugers. I have shot a Ruger 5 and 1/2" bull barrel for years, I really like it. You do not have to clean it as often as some of the others. They are also accurate enough for your purposes. The Smith and Wesson 41's that I shot seemed to gum up easily, requiring frequent cleaning of the action. If you could find ammo that was not coated they did better.
  • rameleni1rameleni1 Member Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didn't see Browning in your list. I have heard nothing but good things about them. I plan on buying the mark plus, with rosewood grips. I can buy it new for 299. I would really like a Colt Woodsman, but they are very expensive. If anyone has had problems with the browings, please let me know. As for the wadcutter question, I use the remington viper trunicated cone solid. They sure look like semi wadcutters, and show up well on targets. I also use the black targets, that turn green when you hit them.

    Rameleni1
  • rick_renorick_reno Member Posts: 186
    edited November -1
    Hi,

    My Pardini likes Aguila SV ammo. I spent a few months bench testing using Federal 711B (terrible), Eley (yellow box - very good), RWS target (very good) and Aguila SV (very good). I couldn't measure any difference in the Eley, RWS or Aguila - and given Aguila costs a lot less than either RWS or Eley I went with it. It functions great in the Pardini; in my old Victor I have to put a drop of oil on the top round, and then the Aguila shoots great there too.
    Nope, haven't tweaked a magazine for it yet. I treat them carefully tho, I don't like doing magazine tuning.
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Smith & Wesson model 41,....they have the feel and ergonomics of a 1911, several barrel configurations, excellent target sights, can add barrel weights to the 7" barrels (if you can find someone willing to part with them). Quick detach barrel for easy cleaning and they really hold their resale value.
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I prefer the Ruger 22/45 but the Sig or the trailside are fine shooters to.


    Best!!!

    Rugster
  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think you would do very well with either the old manufacture hi standard victor or browning buck mark, the victor can be a little pricey but well worth the money spent. the buck mark is cheaper but very accurate out of the box.
  • modocmodoc Member Posts: 474 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My vote is for any OLD Hi Standard.I have a model B that has won more pot shoots than you can imagine.Don't believe it myself but it does it,I only hold it up and point it.Been offered almost every gun it has beaten but still won't part with it.Darndest thing I've ever seen. Anybody else does as good as I do with it which is the strange part.Like a well trained cowpony,just sit in the saddle and let him have his head.

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  • Dyer_MakerDyer_Maker Member Posts: 1,018
    edited November -1
    I agree with rugster ,the ruger 22/45 can't be beat. The price is right and it is very accurate. I have one in the 5 1/2in barrel and I only paid $225 new. Everyone who shoots it wants it. They can't believe how good it shoots.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have owned several Ruger MK II's over the years. I have always been pleased with them. My favorite is one with a 5 1/2" bull
    barrel. Very accurate, 25,000 plus rounds through it without any major problems. I enjoy squirrel hunting with it also.

    If money were not a problem, I think I would look at a S&W 41. I have fired several over the years and they are great guns.

    I am currently torn between purchasing a "Slab Sides" Ruger Mark II or ordering a Marvel conversion Kit for my Kimber. A buddy of mine has a Marvel and is getting sub 1" groups at 50 yds. Just another option if you happen to own a .45...Good luck wih your choice.

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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Browning Buck Mark and the Ruger Mark 2 are about as good as a .22 pistol gets.You couldnt go wrong with either.

    Eric S. Williams
  • mballaimballai Member Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ruger Mark IIs are the best out of the box 22s you can buy for a reasonable price. With a little or a lot of gunsmithing, you can turn them into a real tackdriver.

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  • kaliforniankalifornian Member Posts: 475 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I asked a similar question a few weeks ago, got favorable responses on the Ruger. I bought a Ruger Mark II Governmnet Target model with the 6 7/8" Bull Barell and shot 150 rounds through it today (first time ever firing it). My worst grouping was 3" at about 10 yards and that was my first 10 rounds. Most of my other groupings were much tighter. Jammed 4 times on Federal .22 LR ammo, but I'll forgive it that as it's likely to be a breakin issue as I've shot lots of other range rentals that don't seem to jam often.

    A real pleasure to shoot, the barrel length was perfect for my wants, the heavy bull barrel made for really good practice. After using the bull barell for a while and then swtiching to my .45 HK USP, I noticed my accuracy and comfort with the .45 increased. Something about that heavy barrel makes everything else seem easy.

    My friend got the exact same gun at the same time, has fired about 300 rounds through his, no jams, and also absolutely loves it. We both opted for the Hogue $20 replacement grips which slightly increased the circumference of the gun making it easier to place the pad of my trigger finger on the trigger (the standard grips made it a little too easy to use the knuckle joint/crease instead of the pad as I have large hands).

    My only complaint is that it is a pain to breakdown for cleaning compared to tactical/combat style pistols.

    So many guns, so little money . . .
  • gundummygundummy Member Posts: 254
    edited November -1
    My vote goes to the Ruger Mark II Target with the 5.5" bull barrel. I have a s/s one and it's by far the most accurate gun I've found out of the box. It's scary on what it could do if it's pumped up. I use both open sights and a Leupold 2X scope. That gun eats anything you feed it with no problem. I mostly shoot the cheap Federal's, but still manage to get 1/2" groups @ 25 yds. I once had a bet to shoot a 45acp shell from the open end @ 25 yds and shot the primer out cleanly on the 1st shot. Lucky?, well we taped another shell on the board and did it again, but this time on the 2nd shot. I still have the shells to prove it. Not bragging, well maybe a little, but look no further because the Mark II can't be beat IMHO. GD
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    browning buckmarks are the most accurate out of the box 22s you can buy for a reasonable price. With zero gunsmithing, they are a tackdriver.

    I do some long range shooting with mine and with a simple sight adjustment can hit pop cans at 50 yards.

    shoot the X out of a target at 20 very easy.

    I would love to shoot the target model Buckmark.

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  • EducatorEducator Member Posts: 27 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought sure I would see more votes for the Sig Trailside. Maybe its the fact that there are not as many out there as the Ruger series of 22s. I have fired most 22 pistols made in one form or the other and I have come to the consensus that the trailside is the best all around 22 pistol. They will shoot with the best of the 41s and outshoot most everything else. If you miss with a trailside it's your fault. And this is out of the box. Great trigger, great feel, everything. Of course this is a matter of personal preference. If you have opportunity try them all and decide for yourself.
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Without a doubt, the S&W 41 is the top of the moderatly priced target .22s

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