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8 mm Mauser
dchristian
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I read in a book on Military Mausers of the World that the Czech 98/22 caliber was 7.92 X 57 rimless. Is this the same as 8 X 57 JS?
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dchristian
See Cartridges of the World by Frank Barnes.
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Bullet dia. .323
Bullet weight 170 grs
Muzzle velocity 2360fps
Muzzle energy 2102 ft-lbs
info
The first version of the German 8mm Mauser cartridge
was introduced for use in the Model 1888 Commission
rifle and was officially dubbed the 8x57mmJ. A 1903
variant was called the 8x57mmJS and the two were
NOT interchangeable, but appear to be. The
development of the two types of the "same" ammunition
has cause much confusion about the 8mm Mauser,
particluarly in the U.S.
The primary problem is that the two cartridges use
different size bullets! The earlier cartridge uses bullets of
.318-inch diameter, while the later employs .323-inch
diameter bullets, a full five-thousanths of an inch larger!
Use of the smaller bullets in a barrel made for the
larger results in poor accuracy. Reversing the
mismatch, that is, using larger bullets in the smaller bore
can result in excessive chamber pressures and possible
damage to firearm and/or shooter.
American ammunition makers have dealt with this
issue by intentionally UNDER-loaded their 8mm ammo.
European makers cut no such corners, and provide
both types of ammo in full-power flavors. It does not
seem to be a problem for the Europeans. Before
shooting an unfamiliar 8mm, it is a good idea to have the
firearm checked by a gunsmith as to type.
30-06 specs/info
Bullet dia. .308
Bullet weight 150 grs
Muzzle velocity 2910 fps
Muzzle energy 2820 ft-lbs
The .30-06 Springfield ("thirty-ought six") is a standard
bearer with both military and civilian histories. From it's
roots as the 30-03, it emerged in 1906 to see the U.S.
through 3 wars. Millions of Americans have depended
on the .30-06 for their lives.
Successfully used in rifles as varied as the Springfield,
M-1 Garand, Browning Automatic Rifle, Johnson amd
others, the .30-06 was effective in the widest variety of
battlefield conditions. It is still often regarded as the best
"all-purpose" hunting cartridge (with of course
"all-purpose" being left up to the reader to judge).
From 1906 to 1954 the 30-06 proved itself a
tremendously effective small-arms military cartridge and
versatile hunting round. It's excellent ballistics combined
with the high-quality of 1903 Springfield surplus actions
have provided sportsmen exceptional rifles that will
continue to be useful in the field and only increase in
value.
info from haa's ammo guide
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Thank all of you for the information, it was very helpful to me.
dchristian