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Help identify newly acquired guns- lots of photos

berrywiseberrywise Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
edited April 2004 in Ask the Experts
I wish I could be more helpul in giving you inforrmation about these guns but I really do not know very much (anything) about guns at all. I received these from my grandmother who was cleaning out her house after deciding to move into an apartment.

They belonged to my grandfather and the best she could tell me was that she thought he got them from a friend who worked in law enforcement a long time ago but couldn't be sure for certain. She nor I have any real emotional attachment as other things that I receieved from his estate have more meaning to me.

She though that maybe I could sell or trade them if they were worth anything. My friend recommended this site as the one to go to for answers so hopefully someoene out there can be of service as to what year and make they are as well as if there is any kind of value to them. They are not in the greatest shape that is for sure.

I took a lot of photos so hopefully they will all load.
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This gun is in the best shape of all the guns. Everything seems to operate on it as best I can tell (no way I'm gonna try firing them [:)]

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The handle has a grip that has the leter H&A on it. Also you can see the handle is a bit cracked on side at the base.
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what appears to be a serial number or identification number of some sort.
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photo of how the gun opens and closes.
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This second gun I wouldn't think can be really identified because it appears to be hand made. The majority of it seems to be carved out of wood and the barrel must be some kind of jimmy rigged setup.
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If these truly came from law enforcement I've wondered who used to own this, who made it, was it confiscated. I think it could have a pretty neat history.
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The barrel has these words etched into the metal.
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This gun seems to not have handled the elements over the years as it is very dull and notecable spots on it. The cocking mechansim also has broken off.
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The gun disassembled.
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Final gun.
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This one would probably be in the second best shape.
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Any help you can give me would be mighty appreciative. Even if the guns are not worth a dime I'm still interested in learning a little bit about them.

Thanks everyone!

Comments

  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ( 2 ) of your pistols are fairly common 19th Century types, the third one isn't common and the fourth isn't even a pistol, it started out as a rifle. As you surmised, none are worth a great deal of money, due primarily to condition problems.

    1), Hopkins & Allen, top break, common inexpensive revolver made by a prolific manufacturer. This appears to be in the best condition of the (4) and might be worth as much $50.

    2), Hamilton Rifle, cut down into a pistol. Even though it old, crude and appears quaint and harmless, get rid of it, as it's in violation of Federal Law, and could make trouble for you.

    3), What appears to be a Forhand & Wadsworth, Side Hammer Revolver. Dating to the 1870's?. This one would have been worth the most if not for the obvious condition problems. Very few were made in the larger calibers and would have been worth some bucks.

    4). Unknown "Sucide Special" revolver, these were made in great quanity during the late 19th & early 20th Centuries, by many manufacturerers. In most cases they sold for under $5, they are only worth anyhing to day if their in excellent condition.

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  • Contender ManContender Man Member Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rufe has them pretty much nailed down and going further would require having them actually in hand.

    The cutdown rifle is not legal and needs to be turned in or destroyed.

    The others have limited value and even the best one may not be in a fireable condition.





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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    The last one looks like it might be a .31RF revolver perhaps a Remington?

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