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silencers
ca_deepdiver
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could a silencer work on a revolver??
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thanks
tom
http://www.fortliberty.org/military-library/firearm-gun-silencers-suppressors.shtml
"* ER DONE"
How much to comply with the law? permits etc..
How much is a silencer?
Here in Finland, Silencers are legal to buy. I was just wondering some basic knowledge about them. First, is there any specific calibur, or can ROUGHLY the same size cal be used. Also, i have seen guns with silencers on them. The end of the barrel is turned into a screw so that the silencer can go over top... how would you make that? OR i have seen something that i am guessing you just fit over the barrel and it locks over the forward sight, i'm GUESSING this is like the attachment, but once again, i dont know. If you could please let me know, that would be great. I dont want to ask them in english... and i dont understand finnish yet so:-P
THANKS!
S.K.
Edited by - IIISKAREIIKROIII on 11/09/2002 04:53:28
Useful to me for 'yote hunting in the early mornings/late evening when I do not want to disturb the 'somewhat built-up' (between urban and rural) ares I hunt coyotes in.
I hear that Sure-fire makes the finest for the CAR15/M16 variants. The military has a contract with them.
No civilian sales though. I called the company...they are manufacturing in Kalifornia and have an agreement with the state authorities that they would NOT sell to civilians (I am refering to civilians that DO obtain the necessary federal and state documentation).
GO FIGURE!!!!
Love them Beavers
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
To the best of my knowledge, CANADA is 'mad dog' against ANYTHING that goes 'Boom'(or is associated with anything that goes 'boom'), or ANYONE connected with anything that goes 'boom'[}:)]
I once was going to an official pistol shoot in Kanada (my spelling, like in Kalifornia), and had in my possession an RCMP authorization. At the border crossing, I advised the Kanadian Customs officer I had a gun and the circumstances. She turned pale, advised a supervisor, instructed me to park and take it into the desk. An agent met me at the car and escorted me in (with the cased competition revolver). After playing 20 questions and having the RCMP document varified, I was allowed to continue. Left with the feeling I was trying to get away with something earthshakingly illegal. Never went back to another shoot. Looked to me like it would be a good way, as a minimum, to lose a good gun to confiscation by Kanadian Authorities[xx(]
If you are not part of the solution,
you are most probably adding to the problem!
to silence a gunshot, If you are refering to a supressor they are Illegal for citizens in MOST ALL states with the exeption of a Few,
I suggest to contact the BATFE for the facts reguaring supressors
before you even think about messing with them Unless your into
the Pen cornhole games[xx(]
"I BRAKE FOR ANIMALS! I eat them and wear thier skins"
"Each and every day of my life forces me to add to the list of people who can kiss my xxx...."
As has also been stated,...as long as the load is subsonic,..they sound like a slight breeze. However,..a pill travelling from a rifle at that slow a speed,...drops quickly. A shooting buddy of mine is the head "sharpshooter" of our city SWAT team,...and upon watching him shoot his issue 308 steyer with a "suppressor" I have quickly abandoned any desire to own one. His 308 when sighted in at 100yds to be subsonic,..drops FEET at 200yds,..and 300yds is like trying to shoot 1000yds with a normal caliber. these are best reserved for professionals who have to interdict in hostage situations from across the street and no farther. Kind of worthless for anything else.
The 1 time fee for application is something on the order of $600 for the paperwork,..and then a good suppressor will run ~$800-$1000,....not really much benefit when you look at it monetarily.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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http://www.awcsystech.com/pricelist2002.pdf
http://www.awcsystech.com/suppressors.htm
SILENCERS RETAIL PRICE LIST AUGUST 1, 2003
TITAN THREE - Matte Titanium or Black Finish......................................... 525.00
ARCHANGEL T - Matte, Stainless or Black Finish..................................... 625.00
AMPHIBIAN S - Silenced SS Ruger MKII Pistol....................................... 1250.00
BADLANDER - Silenced Ruger MKII - Parkerized.................................. 1250.00
AMPHIBIAN S Silencer installed on YOUR
Stainless Ruger MKII or BADLANDER on your Blued MKII............... 995.00
OPTIONAL Black finish on AMPHIBIAN S ................................................. 175.00
OPTIONAL Night Sights on AMPHIBIAN S or BADLANDER .................... 225.00
ULTRA II Silenced 10/ 22 (Walnut Stock) .................................................... 1150.00
ULTRA II Silenced 10/ 22 (Black Rifle w/ AWC Tactical Black Stock) ........... 1095.00
ULTRA II Silenced 10/ 22 (Stainless Rifle w/ AWC Tactical Black Stock) ....... 1150.00
ULTRA II 77/ 22 Silenced Ruger (Stainless w/ Zytel Stock or Black Finish) ... 1295.00
With Walnut (Included factory scope mount & rings)
ULTRA II Rifle Silencer installed on YOUR .22 Rifle................................... 850.00
STALKER - FOR .17 cal., .22 Magnums, .22 Hornet & .221 Fireball ......... 725.00
TITANIUM ABRAXAS - Matte Titanium or Black Finish............................. 650.00
RECOIL REGULATOR ............................................................................... 175.00
JUPITER EYE - 9mm OR .40cal; 10mm .................................................... 925.00
NEXUS II - Black, Matte or Polished Stainless Finish................................. 925.00
AGENDA SIX (Threaded - 9mm, .380, 3 LUG SMG & .45 CARBINE ........ 695.00
MK9 - For UZI, MP5, or M10/ M11 (For 9mm, .380 or .45 cal SMG's.......... 695.00
MK9 - Nomex Cover ..................................................................................... 30.00
thUMPer - for .45 or .40cal HK UMP SMG................................................. 925.00
RAIDER ....................................................................................................... 895.00
G36- C RAIDER ........................................................................................... 895.00
THUNDERTRAP ......................................................................................... 995.00
TURBODYNE ............................................................................................ 1550.00
SPECTRUM 2000 - for M1A/ M14 or HK .308 rifles .................................. 1150.00
SS MATCH BARRELS FOR PISTOL SUPPRESSORS
MATCH SS BARREL IN 9mm, .40cal, .45 cal, 10mm ................................. 195.00
THREAD BARREL & FABRICATION OF THREAD PROTECTOR ........... 130.00
FIT MATCH BARREL TO CUSTOMER'S PISTOL........................................ 35.00
BLUE M9 Beretta BARRELl - (Includes threading & thread protector) ....... 275.00
(cont'd)
SPECIAL SERVICES
Thread barrel & provide thread protector (most barrels).............................. 130.00
Shorten & Re- Crown barrel ........................................................................... 25.00
Modify, thread & protect - Ber Minx or Mod 21A......................................... 150.00
P22 Adapter in 1/ 2 x 28 & 3/ 8 x 24 ................................................................ 49.00
Refinish pistol barrel to matte finish............................................................... 15.00
Refinish rifle barrel to matte finish ................................................................. 50.00
Refinish rifle barreled action to matte finish ................................................... 75.00
Refinish rifle (SS) to matte black finish ........................................................ 150.00
Prices include the Class 3 Dealer's transfer fee. Prices DO NOT include the
$200.00 Federal Transfer Tax. Law Enforcement Agencies are exempt from
the $200.00 Federal Transfer Tax fee.
I read an article not long ago about these super high tech suppressors for bolt action rigs such as the 700rem,..and they were awesome,...but around $1200[:(]
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
Got Balistics?
They are awesome! But what's really interesting is that anti-gun countries like Great Britain not only sell suppressors but recommend their use for hunting. Go figure... The Scandinavian countries manufacture and use them, also. They have some really good designs as well.
The $200.00 is not a fee, it is a tax, that's exactly how the BATFE words it. I'm not trying to be rude, just impart some information.
Best.
it's not the type of gun you have in the heat of a battle that counts, only if you have enough ammo for it, lets face it, a gun without ammo is only as good as a base ball bat!!
quote:Does Canada? Could you bring it back to a state that allows them if you got one in Canada?You have got my curiosity. Have you located a silencer in Canada?
To the best of my knowledge, CANADA is 'mad dog' against ANYTHING that goes 'Boom'(or is associated with anything that goes 'boom'), or ANYONE connected with anything that goes 'boom'[}:)]
I once was going to an official pistol shoot in Kanada (my spelling, like in Kalifornia), and had in my possession an RCMP authorization. At the border crossing, I advised the Kanadian Customs officer I had a gun and the circumstances. She turned pale, advised a supervisor, instructed me to park and take it into the desk. An agent met me at the car and escorted me in (with the cased competition revolver). After playing 20 questions and having the RCMP document varified, I was allowed to continue. Left with the feeling I was trying to get away with something earthshakingly illegal. Never went back to another shoot. Looked to me like it would be a good way, as a minimum, to lose a good gun to confiscation by Kanadian Authorities[xx(]
Being a Canadian, I would agree with you that the government is far too liberal in its stance.
However, having said that, the regularity of Americans driving to the border and expecting to just bring their guns in with them (as if we, as a country, was merely an extension of the States) is suprising. Guns just happen to be one of the most confiscated items at the border (especially the "oops, forgot about the one in the glovebox" types).
Also, I've almost had my pistols confiscated driving into Amerika (my spelling[}:)]) for a competitive shoot in Indiana, and that was with my RCMP transport permits. My guns were run through their computers, my car and luggage were searched, and I was fingerprinted.
Lovely.
So don't think it only occurs in one direction.
"Nuke 'em 'til they glow - then shoot 'em in the dark."
I think the article I read was one where they were using the suppressors on a 308 M24 or something of the like. They gave accuracy results and such,...sound familiar? the guy who invented this design was en ex-spec ops soldier. He got the military to look at them and when they placed an order he sold them at cost,..stating he wanted our boys to have the best possible gear. Now that is a patriot[8D]
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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