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best cleanable 22lr semi auto rifle or pistol

rediceredice Member Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 2004 in Ask the Experts
I am going to be selling my Ruger 10/22 and would like a good replacement which you can actually clean without taking out the gun smithing tools every time.

The reason I am not keeping it to just rifles is I haven't yet seen a well designed 22lr rifle, so I figured there has to be some decent pistole's that come apart easily for cleaning.

edit: it would also be nice if its relatively accurate at 50-100 yards.

Thanks for your help.

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  • Lee TenoldLee Tenold Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    if you want a simple 22 rifle to shoot and to clean try a Winchester model 74 very accurate and very easy to disassemble and a turely nice gun to shoot Lee
  • Contender ManContender Man Member Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any semi-auto presents some difficulty in cleaning other than just running patches down the barrel. The rifle you are getting rid of is one of the simpler ones to breakdown for detailed cleaning. Gunsmithing tools??? It takes a screwdriver for the screw that mates the stock to the barrel/action and you remove a couple pins, drop out the trigger group, slide the bolt back and tilt it out and bada bing the gun is stripped.

    Now the Ruger semi-auto MkI or MkII pistols can be a challenge because of the hammer strut and the need to follow an exact sequence of events.

    Kimber recently started mfg. a 1911 style 22 and that is a pretty simple pistol to strip, maybe you should look into one. Brownings are pretty straight forward too, but you might find them a little more perplexing than a 1911 style.

    As for the rifles ... if the semi's bother you go for a bolt action as that is about as smimple as it gets in repeaters.


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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • rediceredice Member Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Contender Man
    Any semi-auto presents some difficulty in cleaning other than just running patches down the barrel. The rifle you are getting rid of is one of the simpler ones to breakdown for detailed cleaning. Gunsmithing tools??? It takes a screwdriver for the screw that mates the stock to the barrel/action and you remove a couple pins, drop out the trigger group, slide the bolt back and tilt it out and bada bing the gun is stripped.

    Now the Ruger semi-auto MkI or MkII pistols can be a challenge because of the hammer strut and the need to follow an exact sequence of events.

    Kimber recently started mfg. a 1911 style 22 and that is a pretty simple pistol to strip, maybe you should look into one. Brownings are pretty straight forward too, but you might find them a little more perplexing than a 1911 style.

    As for the rifles ... if the semi's bother you go for a bolt action as that is about as smimple as it gets in repeaters.


    The point with the Ruger is that having to take the gun fully apart to properly clean it is annoying not to mention time consuming.

    I can field strip and clean my ak-47 so that it sparkles in 1/4 the time it would take me to even take apart the 10/22, for me thats kind of a deal breaker, it makes me not want to use the 10/22 at all. Especially since without proper cleaning it jams like crazy and is very dangerous. I have often had misfires in which the round would be halfway ejected un fired, and the bolt would slam back down on it bending the round in half with either the bullet end or the primer end on the outside of the gun.

    And if that is not due to proper cleaning of the insides, well I definitely don't want the gun.

    I will have to look into those pistol's you mentioned, and ya I didn't think the Ruger pistol's would be easy to clean just by the look of them, I would like something that comes apart easily like my Taurus 92.

    Anyhow thanks for the replies if there are any other guns you guys can think of post them, I probably wont be picking anything up till later this year so the sooner I know exactly what I want the more time I have to look for it :)
  • Jake_S-83Jake_S-83 Member Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    have you considered a revolver? you have to clean more cylinders, but the gun doesnt come apart. I usually just take the grips off of mine.
  • cussedemguncussedemgun Member Posts: 985 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    goodmorning redice;
    take a close look at the Browning 22 auto. it is takedown, the barrel & action seperate easily without tools. I have one of the later made in Japan guns for a shooter. it is well made, light, accurate, fun to shoot, & best of all, easiest semi-auto I ever saw to clean. I seperate the barrel & action, clean the barrel as per your normal procedure, then I use spray solvent (automotive break parts cleaner) to spray the action, work, spray, & blow dry with compressed air. only caution is some solvents may attack the stock finish, so be aware. a Belgium made gun can be rather pricy but the guns made in Japan do not have the "collector" value and are very good shooters. after I got my Browning "gallery gun" I gave my 10-22 away. it just couldn't compete in any way especially accuracy.

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  • gotstolefromgotstolefrom Member Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To each his own I guess.

    The easiest cleaning 22 rifles in my stable are a couple of Marlin model 39 (&39A) lever action rifles. All you need is your thumb and pointing finger. Unscrew the large knurled screw on the reciever, crack it open, slide out the bolt, dump the firing pin, and clean away.

    The Marlin lever action is simple, but the throw is long for some folks. I had a Browning lever gun with about a 1.25" throw. It was quicker, but not as simple to break down and clean.

    And yes, you are exactly right. I can clean my AK's faster than any gun I have, but none of them will 'one hole' a target like my 10/22 will.

    Sounds like you had problems with a 10/22. If I had those problems I would want to chuck it too. I'm sure you won't have trouble in finding someone to take it off your hands.

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  • D@DD@D Member Posts: 4,407
    edited November -1
    quote:so I figured there has to be some decent pistole's that come apart easily for cleaning.


    What is a pistole?
  • rediceredice Member Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by D@D
    quote:so I figured there has to be some decent pistole's that come apart easily for cleaning.


    What is a pistole?


    It appears to be a broken spell checker, since my spell checker corrects pistol to pistole.... hrm

    and no I didn't do it I am sure I didn't... hrm, how to erase that from the dictionary so it doesn't correct it...

    quote:Originally posted by Jake_S-83
    have you considered a revolver? you have to clean more cylinders, but the gun doesn't come apart. I usually just take the grips off of mine.


    I already own a Taurus 9 shot .22Lr revolver, however with around 5K .22Lr rounds sitting in my gun cabinet I thought it would be practical to have something that I could put a few more rounds in at a time heheh.

    I got an awesome deal on 5K .22Lr rounds and I had a 50 round magazine + speed loader for the 10/22 and shot it a lot for fun but since the Ruger has gone to snot I haven't been using them.

    edit: btw my dad owns a Ruger .22Lr I think 6 shot revolver single action that he picked up at a gun show a few months ago. The damn thing's pin is broke didn't find out till a week after he bought it. Out of the 2 Ruger's we have owned each has had problems, doesn't really make me to keen on buying another.

    However we do plan to keep that Revolver I would assume a new pin is a cheep fix especially if I do it myself once I learn how.

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  • Jake_S-83Jake_S-83 Member Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    call ruger and im sure they would correct the problem with that wheelgun. their customer service is great. if you plan on getting rid of that mag and loader, let me know
  • rediceredice Member Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Freaking a, now it changed all my 5k to K....
    call ruger and im sure they would correct the problem with that wheelgun. their customer service is great. if you plan on getting rid of that mag and loader, let me know[\qoute]

    I was thinking about selling them with the gun, however I will give ya a buzz. I have some other 10 round mags I can sell with it.

    Continue discussion here http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=104064 I am assuming this thread will be locked any minute.
  • AllenoAlleno Member Posts: 275 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like your basic problem is with cleaning a semi auto .22, the 10/22. I have a OLD marlin model 60 semi, and have never had any problems with it. My procedure is to clean the bore with a rod, patches etc, then just hold the bolt back and get as much crude as I can out of the action. This requires no taking apart and is relatively quick. Using Q tips and patches and a little oil I get my action pretty clean without taking it apart. If your Ruger is jamming that bad there is something wrong with it or the ammo your feeding it, the 10/22 is known to be a trouble free semi.

    Alleno
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