45-70 BFR

easygo6

I recently bought a BFR 45-70 and a tc conternder 45-70. Both are (of couse) pistols. Can any 45-70 ammo work in both or is rifle ammo different? (and marked accordingly)

easygo6

remington nut and kingjoey made reference to this caliber recently. I am interested, what is this? Not another name for a 45-70 Gov't I hope.

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gskyhawk

45-70 in the Biggest Finest Revolver or something like that
, here's a link to one
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=17317416

allechalley

gskyhawk has it. It's in the stable of guns from Magnum Research, I think. One big hunk o'iron revolver in .45-70gov't.

remington nut

easygo6 yes it is the 45-70 govt cartridge, just in a pistol instead of a rifle.... and just out of curiosity why did you say *i hope* ?? lol

1KYDSTR

There are specialty loads for these revolver loads as well but pretty much any 45-70 load will work out of them; just keep in mind the associated recoil from some of these and take that into consideration! Excellent pistols, by the way, and a ton of fun to shoot if recoil doesn't bother you too much!

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remington nut

sent close to 70rds down range this afternoon... testing different bullets and primers... all the same powder... still shooting about 2 inch groups at 100 yds... but was getting shakey at the end... recoil is manageable...but it adds up quick off a bench... offhand shooting is alot more comfortable but not as accurate

cussedemgun

I guess my eyes are going bad, but I don't see why anyone would want a 45-70 in a pistol other than just companion caliber to their rifle. If you shoot factory ammo, they are loaded for rifle barrels & are going to make a better flame thrower than gun when shot in a pistol. All the researching load data I have done, I have only found one book that rates the 45-70 in a 10" barrel. all others test & record data from 14" or 16" barrels. looking at max. listed loads for 300 grain bullets, the 44 mag will come within 50 or so fps muzzle vel. and do it in a gun that is about 2 lbs. lighter to carry. (isn't convenience of carry why you bought a pistol in the first place?). The 454 Casull is one fine gun and max chamber pressure are on a par with the belted mags., that is why it out performs the 45-70 in pistol barrels. (by a good 300 fps muzzle velosity) when Dick Casull developed his "super" pistol I think he did one super job. If simply building a pistol for the 45-70 round would have done for him, don,t you think he's smart enough to save time, money, & trouble by doing just that? The "BFR" is also made in 450 Marlin, which is a brute of a rifle, but it is still best suited for what it was designed for-- use in a rifle.

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remington nut

chamber pressures of 55,ooo psi in a pistol case doesnt make good sense to me... i've seen 454 factory brass split completely in 2 in the puma 92 lever actions and also watched as partion gold brass had to be forcefully extracted from the cylineder of a ruger super redhawk, my BFR 45-70 kicks alot less than than the 454 and 480 in the super redhawk and i'm shooting 5 shot average of 1750 fps and 2-3 inch groups at 100 yds... do that with your 44 magnum, oh and use a 300 gr bullet when you compare your muzzle velocity. By the way... that 44 magnum... how much muzzle energy does that thing have??