Winchester 9410 - Buying Advice

gunboy51

I'm wanting to buy a nice 9410 Traditional model Winchester. They seem to be selling anywhere from $700-$1,400+ on the auction and I don't understand the huge spread. What makes one so much more valuable over another? I've been told that the tang safety and Invector choke options are desirable. But, how much do each of them add to the price? How much extra is NIB worth over "used, but in excellent condition" for that model? Are there other "desirable" options that drive the price up on that model? I keep getting blown away at the auctions and don't understand why. I guess I am either ignorant, too cheap or the other guys must be crazy!

Thanks for any insight!

Bert H.

Simple...

$700+ for one that is used, no box, no original owners manual.

$1400 for one that is NIB (New In the Box), unfired, and with all of its original factory paperwork.

I the gun is used, but with its original box and owners manual, somewhere in between the two $$$ amounts (depending upon exactly how "used" it is.

The question you have to ask yourself... do you want one to shoot, or to just look at and admire[?] If you want a shooter, and only want to pay a "shooter" price, then good luck (but don't hold your breath too long).

260

in my opinion... they are over priced, quality is not all that great. i have fired one and hangups are common. get a contender with a 410 barrel and you are ahead of the game.

kimi

If you decide to spend that kind of money, you might want to spring for one of these:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83413307

MFI

when Winchester went out of business the prices on all the items they made weny way up. These are overpriced and not worth it.

duckhunter

MFI: What are they worth???

gunboy51

I realize that NIB is worth more than used. But, a used one just went for $1,400 and I have seen others go for $900-$1,200 while some NIB went for $800-$900. So, there has to be more to it than just boxes and paperwork.

I have several Marlin lever guns and agree that they are better quality than the Winchesters. But, I really like the looks of the 9410 Tradtional with its full length magazine tube. I just can't bring myself to pay that much... yet. [;)]

Thanks for all the opinons... keep 'em coming!

givette

Gunboy: givette here. You are absolutely correct. There is more to it than boxes and paperwork. It's called an unknown. A seller, when he lists an item, is hoping that there will be two (or more) viewers of his auction that really want what is being sold, and will drive up the final auction bid accordingly.

When you see a product here on GB sell much higher than, say, the same product two months ago, it's usually because the seller was lucky. The right combination of bidders viewed his auction.

You have to bid your maximum. Not a penny more. And keep your fingers crossed that a bidding war doesn't ensue. Because the price will then skyrocket. It's a crap-shoot. Joe

EDIT: Our top forum "winchesterologist" (love that phrase) has answered the baseline dollar value question you asked about your firearm. So, I concentrated on the reason for price fluctuations. I know it [the dollar amount stated] sounds somewhat "off" compared to the auctions you have experienced, so I chimed in.

I don't like to put words in people's mouths, but I might assume, if asked, that he'd say pretty much what I have already said is the reason for the price-swings you've witnessed. Joe

And this is off topic. Your phrase-coinage got me thinking.
As a Corpsman, we'd assist the MD's during various procedures. One time, this Colonel came in for a proctological exam, and I said to myself I'd fix him good. I knew the MD had a habit of putting his left hand on the knee of the patient while he was inserting the probe. I waited until the procedure started, quietly went over to the table, and gently put my hand on his other knee. I wish I had a camera shot of him flying off the table.[:D][:D]

gunboy51

Givette: I agree with you that sometimes the competitive "alpha male" comes out during the auction and they bid higher than they expected to. I have been guilty of it myself a few times and upped my max-bid price trying to win, only to get "blown away" still by some larger "alpha male". I finally stopped bidding after I crossed the "stupid" boundary and came back to my senses.

However, I'm still trying to make some logical sense of this. There has to be a Winchester expert out there that can explain at least some of the price hype to me (beyond the fact that they are no longer made). There has to be certain options or stock configurations that are more valuable than others.

I'm looking for a Winchester-ologist [:D]

kimi

That sounds like it might cost you! [:D] or would that be for a Winchestercologist? [:o)]

MFI

The last ones I had in the store sold around $400 dollars just before winchester announced they were leaving us. Does that help any ?