Kel-Tec Sub 2000 9mm or Mec Tech CCU 45?

rballi

I've got the itch for a hand gun caliber carbine and would like opinions on my two choices. I am looking at the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 9mm carbine that folds up, is mostly plastic and is $329 locally. I am also thinking about the Mec-Tech CCU 45 carbine conversion that uses a 1911 lower and comes like a flat top for around $300. I'm thinking about using my Colt Sistema Argentine lower for the CCU 45. The Sub 2000 comes with fixed sights. The CCU 45 comes flat with optional fixed sight rail or you can mount a red dot on it.

Opinions, Pros, and Cons are appreciated.

Roy

gap1916

Have You thought about the Ruger PC 9 or PC 40? They can be converted to use other mags like Glock or Sig. My 2 cents

JudgeColt

If the folding feature is worth anything to you, the Kel-Tec is the only choice. If not, there are more egronomically pleasing pistol-cartridge rifles available. If magazine capacity is an issue, and it is with me for a carbine, high capacity magazines are most available and least expenisve for the Smith & Wesson M59 series of pistols. With that in mind, a Marlin Camp Carbine is a great choice. The Ruger PC-9 is also a good choice, but magazine availability is somewhat less. There are Mec-Gar 20-round magazines still available for a price that are more reliable than other brands. A .45 ACP long gun does not appeal to me, what with the rainbow trajectory and a 8-round standard magazine capacity, or about 10 rounds tops.

After a lot of work, I was able to get several USA and Triple-K 30-round magazines to work in my Kel-Tec Sub-9 and I kind if feel like I have an "assault rifle" in a brief case. You can leave the loaded magazine in the rifle while folded if you desire. All you have to do then is unfold the rifle, allow the bolt to close and chamber a round, and you are ready to fire. That feature is the reason I chose the Sub-9. The 2000 is basically the same, but about half the cost. The only bad thing about the 2000 is that the bolt does not stay open on the last shot. Of course, that does not bother H-K M91/93 owners.

If I cannot have the folding feature of the Kel-Tec, I would just as soon have a .223 Colt Carbine over a Camp 9 for about the same size and weight.

CS8161

Gap1916, can the Ruger carbines really be made to function with other brand mags? I would like to get a Ruger PC40 and use my hicap Glock 22 mags in it if it would work. How do I convert the PC40 to use the Glock mags?
Thanks

Chris8161
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just-shoot

The front sight on the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 is adjustible. The rear is fixed. I'm unfamiliar with all the other carbins, but if you go with the sub2000, the shop I got mine at had them for $329 also, but the owner sold it to me for $299. The last gun show I went to, I saw several vendors selling for $299. Enjoy what ever you decide on.