Ar-15...who make a good one?

JMMSID

One more question, I am also in the market for a preban AR15. I want the M4 configuration (collapsable stock, barrel step down, and bayonett lug) I know that colt (obviously) makes a great M4, are there any other manufacturers the you would recomend?? Possibly cheaper than colt? By the way, does anybody know what the term "green lable" meens when refering to a colt Ar-15?

leeblackman

I have a super nice M4 carbine built on a Colt SP1 lower, has feedramp cuts, it was all professionally fitted by a gunsmith. I might sell it if the price is right, but the last three guys who inquired couldn't afford it.

There are alot of companies who make nice AR's.

Colt, Bushmaster, Armalite, Panther/DPMS, Eagle Arms, Olympic Arms, Rock Valley Arms, ect. Take your pick. Lots of companies on the market, just pick what features you want and theirs a company that makes it.

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JMMSID

thanks for your reply......I like armalite....isn't eagle arms assosiated with them? I know bushmaster, colt, and dpms....the others Ive never headr of.....whats best to buy if I want a preban, tactical weapon with collector potential?

leeblackman

Preban, collectors potential, go Colt. But for best buy tactical, I like bushmaster (quality parts corp). If your looking for long term investment you may want to wait until after 2004 to see if they renue the assualt arms bill or not. Cause if they don't preban values will drop alot.

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Greywolf807

Ditto what Lee said. First, figure out exactly what you want and how much you are willing to spend, then shop from there. You can't beat a Colt for collector value, but I'd look to Armalite or Bushmaster if you want a GREAT rifle but don't want to pay for the Colt name.

74cuda

ArmaLite is Eagle Arm's parent company...



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nmyers

I think that you should reconsider. A rifle such as you describe was never catalogued by Colt. It will cost a lot (because of the pre-ban receiver), and will have no collecibility (because it will be a mixed parts mongrel).

Buy a current production Armalite, Bushmaster, or Colt, (any configuration) and put the rest of the money is a good mutual fund. In 10 years both will be worth more than you paid.

Neal

JudgeColt

There is some confusion here. Only Colt made the AR-15. The other similar-type rifles were identified by other names.

As far as I know, there were no Colt M4 clones made before the ban, but some pre-ban rifles were close in configuration.

While I am a big Colt fan, in my opinion, the closest thing in a pre-ban clone of the M4 probably would be a flat-top Carbine made by Eagle Arms. They had the fence, push-pin front pin, no block, small pins, etc.. They are scarce and expensive. I think Bushmaster and Olympic made similar pre-ban rifles, but the quality is not quite as good. What you may end up doing is buying a pre-ban complete rifle, and you can then legally modify it any way you choose.

Eagle Arms with the original company, which bought the ArmaLite trade name and started applying it to all of its products. Now ArmaLite applies the Eagle name to less well-finished (cosmetically) rifles and stripped rifles as price leaders. For instance, the bores on current Eagle rifles are not chrome, no sights come with them, etc..

cpermd

It is fairly easy to build an M4 clone.
Key question is do you want pre or postban.
A true M4 would have to be on a preban but you can come very close with a post.
No Bayonet lug or Telestock or Flashider though.
cpermd

74cuda

I said what I said cause when you talk to ArmaLite, they speak of Eagle Arms as their inferior group of ar's, as the judge has noted. ArmaLite will sell their Eagle Arms receivers bare, but will not sell their ArmaLite receivers alone...

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gap1916

I am not a fan of the Colt M4. I would go Bushmaster. My 2 cents

4GodandCountry

I personally have shot colt and bushmaster and dont feel one is any better than the other. Keep in mind, Colt, Bushmaster and, I believe, Olympic are the only AR manufacturers to be awarded military contracts to supply weapons to the military. When I was stationed in Korea some 15 years ago I was issued a bushmaster. I now own a bushmaster and ive never experienced any malfunctions that were a result of the weapon. They are reasonably priced, accurate and in my experience function flawlessly when kept clean and maintained. If you want to spend the extra money to get a pre ban, keep in mind that the assault weapons laws will be evaluated in a few years and hopefully they will be seen as rediculous as they really are and thrown out with the Brady bill. If, god willing, this happens the value of the pre bans will drop considerabely and you could be out some cash. Personally, unless you have a class 3 license to keep an automatic, I dont think they are worth the difference in price and if I was gonna spend 1500 clams on a military type weapon Id look at the springfield M1A over the AR15.

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