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IAI .30 M1 Carbine - Isreali

Yankee ClipperYankee Clipper Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
edited April 2004 in Ask the Experts
Anyone with knowledge of the Isreali .30 M1 Carbine? Are these a good quality representation of the original military? Value? I'd be grateful for any info. as I have no experience with these. I've heard a few "bad" things; how about some positive experience!
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  • dallas.comdallas.com Member Posts: 214 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what bad things have you heard?
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  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    Read the post IAI M1 carbine help needed. This will give you some information that you are requesting. [8D]

    Greg
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  • Yankee ClipperYankee Clipper Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've read the "bad" such as Greg refers to(Post: IAI M1 carbine help needed), but I'm looking to see if there are any good experiences.quote:Originally posted by Yankee Clipper
    Anyone with knowledge of the Isreali .30 M1 Carbine? Are these a good quality representation of the original military? Value? I'd be grateful for any info. as I have no experience with these. I've heard a few "bad" things; how about some positive experience!
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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    Here is a report on them from an other website

    There have been several peacetime manufacturers of the M1 Carbine such as Universal and Iver Johnson. When these companies folded, a void was left with a large demand to be filled. Go on line and you can see many companies offering parts, restoration and rebuilt/remanufactured rifles. There is still a demand for this fine little rifle.

    OK, we are now caught up. Here's where IAI (the Uzi people) come in. The M888 is a remanufactured M1 carbine. The difference between rebuilt and Remanufactured is that some rebuilt rifles are nothing more than a collection of surplus parts with a new finish. The M888 is anything but that. IAI uses as many new parts as possible on a fully rebuilt military receiver. Since this is a rebuilt "old" rifle, it is not covered by the current "assault rifle" laws. This allows IAI to heap the 15 shot magazine and the original bayonet mount. The original birch wood is now replaced by walnut, but finished to look original. The walnut is actually a better and stronger wood. This is not the only improvement, there are others that also make this a better rifle without detracting from it.

    If anyone ever shot an original carbine, you will notice when the bolt is cycled, it rattles badly and is a bit unnerving. This is not a problem, but a result of intentional engineering. On the original carbine the bolt/slide fit loosely so that when dirt and other assorted crud that happens in battle got on the rifle, it would not jam up the works. IAI realized that the new rifle will probably not see battle, so they made the slide/bolt fit tightly as one would expect on a "civilian" rifle. Again, this does not detract from it's originality.

    Overall, this is a well made rifle that can (with a 5 shot magazine) be used on medium game and small deer. It fits nicely between a small plinker and a large bore hunting rifle. If you don't hunt. the M888 makes a great plinker and due to it's lower power, most indoor handgun ranges will let you shoot an M1 Carbine there. This is a plus for you hogs in urban areas where there are not many wide open outdoor spaces to go shooting.

    The summary, a good well built rifle with many uses aside from being a neat "military collectible" without the expense of a genuine mint condition original. I have seen excellent reconditioned originals go from $750 to over $1500 depending on make and model. The M888 will set you back about $550 with a warranty Now here are the specs: Weight: 5 lbs Length: 35.6 in (M1) Muzzle Velocity 1,972 FPS/effective range 83 yards


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  • CHGOTHNDERCHGOTHNDER Member Posts: 8,936 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Read my topic on this forum (IAI M1 carbine help needed) I and 2 others from my department bought them and have had nothing but problems. I have had to rebuild the whole bolt on this NEW rifle and as far as warranty and or support, someone posted the phone number for IAI in my post and a woman answered and says that the company is out of business and she is taking messages only. The website is down but you can go thru the motions of making an order then ....nothing.I should have bought mil surplus and spent the money. The rifle looks and feels great but to me it's honestly a wall hanger for now. I bought a Rock-ola..They should have stuck to Uzi's

    PJ

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  • RoadkillRoadkill Member Posts: 509 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Other than my minor extractor problem, it is a FANTASTIC little shooter!

    If you buy a WW2 era one, you will still be prone to old parts failing.

    See http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=104968
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