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.223 vs .308
Cameron203
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Can someone explain to me the difference between these two rounds. .223 vs .308 as far as range and knock down power? I am thinking of purchasing one of the following rifles:
AK-47 *not sure who makes a quality AK most of them seem cheap.
AR-15 *colt or bushmaster
AR-10 *not sure who makes this but its a .308
HK SL8 *I think these only come with 10 rd. clips its a .308
Hk91 clone-don't really want to pay 3k for a HK 91 so who makes a good clone and are they as good quality as the HK 91's.
Thanks
AK-47 *not sure who makes a quality AK most of them seem cheap.
AR-15 *colt or bushmaster
AR-10 *not sure who makes this but its a .308
HK SL8 *I think these only come with 10 rd. clips its a .308
Hk91 clone-don't really want to pay 3k for a HK 91 so who makes a good clone and are they as good quality as the HK 91's.
Thanks
Comments
The standard .223 55gr bullet travels about 3100 fps (feet per second). It can also be loaded with bullets both heavier and lighter than 55gr.
The .308 uses a large variation of bullet weights. The usual military load is a 147 to 150 gr bullet going about 2700- 2800 fps.
Both of these rounds perform well. The .308 in the right hands is accurate out to 1000 yds and beyond. The .223 can be shot to those ranges, but does not have the same power at the terminal end due to its bullets weighing about a third of those in the .308.
Most ak-47's are chambered in 7.62x39mm, a far shorter round than the .308 or 7.62x51mm. I have seen AK's in .223, and if memory serves me, some .308 AK's about 10 yrs ago.
"Never let school interfere with your education"
the .223 is smaller and travels at higher speeds
Whatever rifle you settle on, get one that is factory chambered. Yes a lot of conversions are good, but a lot of them are a royal pain in the butt ...
You don't say what you want to use the rifle for so trying to give advice on a specifc rifle would just be guessing and that's not a productive process.
The more info you give the better we can help you!
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!
Greg
Former Marine
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it's not the type of gun you have in the heat of a battle that counts, only if you have enough ammo for it, lets face it, a gun without ammo is only as good as a base ball bat!!
http://www.remington.com/ammo/ballistics/centerfire/comp_ballistics_results.asp
If you want a .308 but don't want to spend 3 grand you might want to check these out. You can get high capacity mags for them.
http://www.dsarms.com/catalog-list.cfm?Category=01&Subcat=SA58 Tactical Series&storeid=1
what about the hk clone's
If you go with 308 you might consider an FAL. I like them much better than an HK clone like the Cetme. A little more expensive than a Cetme but still half the price of an AR-10.
MOLON LABE!
There are some good quality clones out there ... none of them say Century on them (big red flag). Because of their price they have a loyal following, and reportedly, once "broke in", "worked over" or "returned for repairs" they can be made into decent shooters ... or so I've heard.
Ohio Rapid Fire builds a good quality HK clone in 223 and 308 that sells retail for $599.95 - $1299.95 depending on the configuration you want ... also the PTR-91 is also supposed to be a good clone but I've never handled one.
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Chance favors the prepared mind [8D]
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
Having heard the stories and seen the quality, you may want to steer clear of Century Arms products unless you are on a tight budget.