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parabellum

remington steeleremington steele Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited April 2004 in Ask the Experts
Any one know what the differance is in 9mm Luger ammo and parabellum? I cannot seem to find any parabellum ammo to shoot in my 9mm Luger.
Larry
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  • remington steeleremington steele Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    CAN ANYONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THIS TERM MEANS? I'VE LOOKED IN THE DICTIONARY, ASK A FEW PEOPLE, EVERYONE RELATES IT TO 9MM. BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW. THANKS.

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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is no differnce as the cartridges are one and the same (9X19 mm) and only the name is changed. Parabellum is the common term used in Europe while Luger is used mostly in the United States.

    Mark T. Christian
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  • remington steeleremington steele Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanx for the Info, I was under the impression it had something to do with pressure of the round.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Luger is known to Germans as the P-08 and the ammunition as the 7.65 or 9mm Parabellum.
    Lugers need full power loads to cycle properly. If you want to shoot light loads, the mainspring needs to be changed.
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  • HangfireHangfire Member Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    The Luger is known to Germans as the P-08 and the ammunition as the 7.65 or 9mm Parabellum.
    Lugers need full power loads to cycle properly. If you want to shoot light loads, the mainspring needs to be changed.



    Better be carefull there. The 7.65 is the 30 luger, not 9mm!!!!!

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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    v35, Your post is the first mention I have ever heard of a light spring for light loads in the P-08. I know that the Colt Govt Model is set up for shooting wadcutter ammo by using a lighter spring but never heard of this being done in the Luger. It makes sense that it could be done. What kind of light loaded ammo is available for the Luger? Is this something is done by target shooters in Germany?
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  • bigbossmanbigbossman Member Posts: 154 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 9mm Parabellum literally is Latin for 9mm "for war" and is also called a 9x19mm load. There is also a 9x17, commonly called the 9mm Kurz or short which we call a .380 ACP over here. Then you have the 9x18, aka the 9mm Makarov. None of these three grades is interchangable with the other although they will often fit in the other caliber of gun. Watch your labels if you get old surplus ammo anywhere. Confusing, ain' it? Then there's the new 9x23, which was supposed to be of .357 ballistics........

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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hangfire- The first model Lugers were 7.65 Parabellum and in 1908, the 9mm Parabellum was adopted by German forces. The Swiss continued with the 7.65 Parabellum until the Luger was superceded.
    The US Cavalry was issued & tested a bunch in the early 1900s and they were a flop.
    I never suggested both calibers could be fired from the same barrel.
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  • HangfireHangfire Member Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually the 7.65 was first used in the Borschardt in 1900, and the 9mm came out in 1902, both chambered in the luger.. I just had never heard of the 7.65 referred to as parabellum.[?]

    Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob

    This is what confused me!!I thought you were saying they were the same round.

    "The Luger is known to Germans as the P-08 and the ammunition as the 7.65 or 9mm Parabellum"
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    remington steele.....not to confuse you any more....go to a gunshop, ask for 9mm pistol ammo, and you'll get ammo that will fit your Luger.
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