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6.5 gibbs ??

thechadthechad Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
edited May 2007 in Ask the Experts
any info on this caliber? Just picked up a beautiful target rifle in this caliber , it also has the large free floating 6-24 bausch and lomb rifle is about 20 years old , and looks like new, weighs about 20 pounds

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  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thechad,

    Welcome to the GB forums!

    The 6.5 Gibbs is probably the most famous of the Rocky Gibbs collection of suped up improved '06 cases. The case shape differs from the Ackley Improved case in that the shoulder is moved forward into the neck leaving a short neck and the shoulder angle is 35 degrees. This has been noted as being the maximum size and capacity that can be gotten from the '06 parent case.

    This is a fairly complete history with loads:

    http://www.riflemagazine.com/catalog/detail.cfm?ProductID=822

    These are a few loads:

    http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=317

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    .270 Win. / 6.5 Gibbs
  • GeriGeri Member Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi. Fine caliber/wildcat. Page 773 of the wildcat cartridges has an artical on the 6.5 gibbs. I talked with "Rocky" Gibbs several times, and also worked as a packer for Ray Tarbox the first year he had his outfitters ticket. Ray was a big fan of the 6.5, and had me get all the Den. 42 and 43 brass I could for him.Brings back some good thoughts about good times and people. Have a great day and enjoy the rifle and caliber.
  • hedgehopper62hedgehopper62 Member Posts: 636 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What was the deal with 42 and 43 den. brass my uncle loaded gibbs guns and had a lot of this brass.i inherited his guns and brass.tks hedge[:D]
  • thechadthechad Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    nononsense

    what would be the effective range for this caliber
  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    Thechad, the question is not "what is the effective range", the question is "how comfortable are you shooting at long range". The 6.5 Gibbs is one of those cartridges that have an effective range farther than the ability of 98% of shooters. If you take a look at the ballistics the 6.5 Gibbs is similar to the 6mm-284, which is a favorite in the game of 1,000 yard benchrest.
    So tell us, what are you planning to do with your new rifle?
  • GeriGeri Member Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi. Rocky and Ray claimed the Den 42 and 43 brass was better than TW etc. The Loads Ray worked up for his 6.5 used TW brass, and H4831. When the primer pocket expanded to the point the new primer was lose, Ray would drop the charge one gr. and load the Den 42 and 43 brass. I load for accuracy, not hot loads. Ray's rifle would group sub MOA with his loads.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thechad,

    Effective range has a lot of variables involved in that determination. Bullet weight, bullet design, velocity achieved by barrel length, calculated energy from the velocity, quality of the scope and mounts, quality of the rifle rest and most important, the shooters ability given the best of the above. Your effective range can be very different from, let's say, mine. Mine can be very different from another shooter's. So really it's hard to say what that might mean.

    Pure numbers from some of my notes indicate that this cartridge loaded with a 140 gr. Berger VLD has enough energy at 900 yards to use for deer hunting. That most assuredly does not mean that we can all attempt to shoot deer at 900 yards. It means what I wrote, the energy is available, no more. Your ability sets the limit not what the extreme ballistics and math works out to be.

    Before starting to work up any loads be sure to have the chamber cast so you know exactly what the chamber dimensions are. This is critical since there aren't any standards for these types of chambers.

    This can be an exceptional cartridge but it can also be real hard on the cases. It can also be hard on the shooter if he or she doesn't pay attention to reloading. These improved cases do not show pressure signs in the same ways that standard cartridge cases do. You really need a chronograph to work up loads. I started with Lapua cases since I had experience with them and they have a reputation for being harder and more consistant than the other manufacturers cases.

    If you have the chance, I'll bet that a bunch of us would really appreciate a couple of good pictures of your rifle.

    Best.
  • thechadthechad Member Posts: 12 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    actually I am just going to throw it out there for you target guys and reloaders, It comes with the dies, and about 50 rounds of ammo, has the old bausch and lomb 6-24 power scope.I personally dont have a use for it and there is no reason for me to keep it when someone could be having a great time with it.I had my gunsmith check it out today, he said it was in great shape inside and out.I would post some pics but havent figured that part out on here. somebody give me their e-mail addy and throw it up here.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thechad,

    As I said, my e-mail address is in my profile. You can send the photos to me and I'll post them.

    Best.

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