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high standard .22's

shootnfishshootnfish Member Posts: 134 ✭✭✭
edited May 2007 in Ask the Experts
hello to all,i was thinking about getting one of the new high standards for an informal target gun and a squirrel gun. was thinking heavy bbl. i am not familiar w/ the newer models in terms of accuracy. the other option i was considering would be a h.b. ruger in stainless. neither one would be scoped if i got one. anyone have any thoughts of one over the other?this would be in terms of accuracy, reliability[especially in feeding] and overall functioning.

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  • shootnfishshootnfish Member Posts: 134 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello to all.i have ? about a high standard .22 i am about to buy. it is marked hd military,new haven, conn, .22 lr.serial is 155xxx. i know high std. has made many changes to the line over the years, but where does this one fit in in terms of desireability.this is in terms of , is it a good one to have overall?also, about what year was it made.? thanks,
    stevek
  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heaved owned a number of the H-S "hammer guns" over the years, including the H D Military. Keep in mind that the haven't been made since the late 40's, i.e. it's at least 57 years old. That said, they are excellent pistols and I shoot mine regularly. The adjustable rear sight on the H D Military can be a bear, lots of folks don't know how to adjust them properly, and screw them up. Make sure the one you are buying is O.K. If the pistol is factory original, in very good condition or better and you can pick it up in the $250 to $350 range, go for it. My 2?.
  • ClarentaviousClarentavious Member Posts: 800 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here's how it goes. The original High Standard company (that made amazing quality guns) was sold to Leisure Group in 1968... Then the company was sold again in 1978 and became High Standard Inc. The old company officially closed in 1984. The guns from this company were incredibly accurate - and now, they are very expensive (unlikely to find any one in good condition for less than $750)

    Now, in 1993 Firearms International obtained the trademark rights to the High Standard name... and now produces high standard guns. However, they aren't quite of the quality that the old company made. Not to say that they are bad, just not quite as good.

    You'll have to look up the serial number to determine the specific model and see if it is from the old high standard company, or the new one.
  • Bill DeShivsBill DeShivs Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The HD Military is an excellent pistol, made from the early 1940s until the late 1050s.
    Bill
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    shootnfish,

    The pistol you are looking at was made in the mid- late 40's. I know there is a site for it but can't get it in mind right now for when exactly the pistol was made. More than likely if it is marked HD military it was manufactured 1946-1947? they were porduced from 1946-1955. I have one and they are phenomenal as far as shooters. they will also keep their value well. Is it a short or long barrel? Is it blued or parkerized? what type grips?
    Desireability is an individual thing, and how well you don't show it for the good of your negotiation. but I will tell you these pistols are worth owning. depending on condition they run from $300-$700
    -good luck
  • brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,104 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • RCrosbyRCrosby Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try:
    RimfireCentral.com, scroll down to the High Standard category, and,
    Highstandard.org, for the H.S. collectors association.
    Unless it's been damaged or badly buggered, grab it. I have an H.D. in 4 1/2" configuration that is, bar none, the most beautifully made handgun I've ever owned. Yes, the rear sight is a bear, and for true target work, you want one of the many later hammerless variations, but as an accurate, reliable, sheer joy to hold and shoot pistol, you'll find no better.
    Good luck.
  • JohnStimsonJohnStimson Member Posts: 448
    edited November -1
    It was probalby shipped in 1946. The HD-MILITARY model was made from late 1945 through 1949 with a few stragglers shipping through 1950 and I have found two that shipped very late - one in 1960 and one in 1975. There were something less that about 150,000 of this model made making it one of the best sellers - third behind the Sport King and the Dura-Matic. The higher production models were were made in two or more variations and over far more years than the HD-MILITARY.

    Since the HD-MILITARY you are interested in is an early version it may have plastic or walnut grips and it may or may not have the trigger over travel adjsuting screw. The later guns all had walnut grips and had the trigger overtravel screw. The early variations are the result of using up materials and work in progress from the cancelled war time contracts.

    There are takedown instructions and instructions for adjusting the rear sight at the following link:

    http://www.histandard.info/manuals/hampistols/
  • shootnfishshootnfish Member Posts: 134 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    to all, thanks for the replies. the gun is in good shape, and it shows some wear on the blue on the bbl where the previous owner used the bbl weight. plastic grips, 6 and one half inch bbl, trigger overtravel screw. fortunately, the sights are not messed up, i can see that w/o the proper screwdriver the screws could be injured quickly. the bbl weight comes w/ the gun. it functions perfectly.the website for the takedown instructions is much appreciated because it is a lot different than other high standards i have seen.
  • JohnStimsonJohnStimson Member Posts: 448
    edited November -1
    The HD-MILITARY did not come with a barrel weight nor was one offered by the factory. The standard barrel lengths were 4.50" and 6.75".
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    you need to read up on the rights and wrongs in todays market.
    come read up before you get took.
    www.mausercentral.com,
    click the link mtc's fireams corner and click the hi std thread.
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
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