UNKNOWN ANTIQUE SHOTGUN

noor ali khan

Hi everybody! Thanks for the heLp with the simson gun. I'm back with a very unique shotgun.
It's got a 16 gauge barrel and has a pistol-butt grip. The butt-pad is made of steel. now the uniqueness of it lies in the mechanism of its assembly! I'ts got no wood-work in its fore-end grip. I've included a video in the album to show how the mechanism works.
About the year of manufacture, I found 1870 engraved(as shown in the photos in the album). Now this engraving was tamperred with by the previous owner. It was probably strucked out due to some misunderstanding with the licencing rules in this country(Pakistan). But it is still visible. So i'm not sure whether this is the original engraving.
The mechanical parts are intact and I have been using it a few times. Works fine.
Could somebody please give me info on it's country of manufacturing, or any other info. I'LL be glad to provide more details if the photos and video in the album doesn't clarify things. Thanks!

FOR PHOTOS:
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/561233864QfNssg?vhost=good-times

FOR VIDEO:
http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3032281090100490645ThoDWk?vhost=good-times

perry shooter

Hello believe it or not this was a fairly common type of locking action shotgun made in Europe from the 1900's up to WW II it then for the most part disappeared It was found that most people liked the top opening lever better and depending on how the locking lugs were made single/double/Kerssner/Greener/ ETC.it was also stronger then on your shotgun your's is a system that is sometimes referred to as Collath system but my spelling might be wrong. Country of orgin??? should be able to be found with good detail pictures of the proof marks. For the most part there were thousands of gun makers in Europe and many were made outside of firearm factories as we know them today.

rhmc24

I see the ELG mark which places it Liege, Belgium. Crowned oval with ELG in it, maybe its LEG, whatever, but for sure Liege. I agree with Perry but for his dates. I would say 1870s to possibly 1900. That type of breeching is outnumbered by the top lever maybe 100:1. Just a guess in that I have encountered only two or three fore-under lever types to hundreds of the top levers.

I have my grandfather's Liege made shotgun, which he bought "used" in 1886. It is top lever type.

captkirk3@dslextreme.com

E over LG in an oval = Liege, Belguim.....Most likely made by Pieper..
Definately a Black Powder Gun...Not made to shoot Modern Loads...I would'nt shoot it as its paid its dues and needs to be placed above the Mantle to be admired...Also keep in mind that these Old Shotguns are made of a Softer Steel and will finally shoot themselves Loose...Any and all parts are obsolete, and it destroys the value to have to repair this Old Gun.........

noor ali khan

thanks for the precious info. A friend of mine has pretty much the same kind of shotgun from the leige company. On it's barrell, the following is written(in dim letteres), "C. MASOUELIER LIEGE". I wanted to know whether i've spelled it correctly. I'll be thankfull for correction.

1KYDSTR

The "O" is actually a "Q". Masquelier was a maker of decent grade shotguns (E. Dumoulin they aren't, but still nice stuff) who I believe went away after WWI.