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Fire forming 7mm-06 from 3006

mto7464mto7464 Member Posts: 60 ✭✭
edited November 2010 in Ask the Experts
Would it be possible to neck size some 06 brass with 7x57 dies just enough to get the shell to chamber and fire form it this way? Also what kind of load would I use to fire form?

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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why do you need to fire form brass?

    7MM Express (as it was originally named), or 280 Remington (its current name) is readily available both as emtpy cartridges, and as factory loaded ammo.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • 20gabob20gabob Member Posts: 232 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm-06 is not .280 Rem/7mm Express is not 7mm-06.

    The .280 cartridge is about .050" longer in head to shoulder dimension to keep it out of .30-06 and .270 chambers and is therefore not the same as the wildcat 7mm-06/.285 OKH.

    I guess you could set the shoulder back on .280 brass but then it would be deceptively headstamped and have excess cartridge headspace if it got back in a .280 gun.

    Know what you are shooting, know what you are recommending.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mto7464,

    The biggest issue why you can't just neck down 30-06 to 7mm with a 7x57 {edit:}die is the shoulder on a 7x57 is .429". The shoulder on the 30-06 is .449". If the 7x57 were to press down on the 30-06 case it would neck it down to 7mm but also move the shoulder down to .429". This is too much movement for the unsupported case to take and somewhere along the case of the 30-06 you are going to get a big fold.

    On the flip side, if you adjust the height right, you can use a .280 Rem die to size down 30-06 cases.

    Plus one on what Hawk Carse said. The lengths make it difficult too. The best thing to do would be to use a .280 die and do the case trimming after you sized down the case.
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why don't you just get a 7mm-06 die (can be found at 1651 - 1700 of 1912 page) from http://www.ch4d.com (Orders: 740-397-7214) for $78.25 and call it good.

    Ed
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    or have a 280 reamer run in the barrel and just buy 280 brass.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    or have a 280 reamer run in the barrel and just buy 280 brass.


    Or...have a .280 AI run in the barrel and just buy .280 AI brasss (Nosler)[;)]
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    or have a 280 reamer run in the barrel and just buy 280 brass.


    Or...have a .280 AI run in the barrel and just buy .280 AI brasss (Nosler)[;)]


    ... or just use the right die (7mm-06) as designed/intended as noted above. [:p][}:)][^][;)]
  • mto7464mto7464 Member Posts: 60 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    or have a 280 reamer run in the barrel and just buy 280 brass.


    Or...have a .280 AI run in the barrel and just buy .280 AI brasss (Nosler)[;)]


    ... or just use the right die (7mm-06) as designed/intended as noted above. [:p][}:)][^][;)]


    Where's the fun in that. I just like to see what can and can't be done. Ideally I would just like to get a collet neck sizer from lee after fireforming the brass.
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mto7464
    quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    or have a 280 reamer run in the barrel and just buy 280 brass.


    Or...have a .280 AI run in the barrel and just buy .280 AI brasss (Nosler)[;)]


    ... or just use the right die (7mm-06) as designed/intended as noted above. [:p][}:)][^][;)]


    Where's the fun in that. I just like to see what can and can't be done. Ideally I would just like to get a collet neck sizer from lee after fireforming the brass.


    ... heck, then just do it and have fun with it! I figured you were stuck ... where's the fun in asking if half the fun is what you claim [?]
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