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grendel p-30 value

jzxljzxl Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited April 2004 in Ask the Experts
Hi I have a grendel p-30 I bought new several years ago. I have never fired it once. What's it worth?
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  • 1KYDSTR1KYDSTR Member Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    3 models made...differing in barrel length from 4.75 to 11 inches with and without muzzle brake. In 100% condiiton betwen $240 and $275. Add $25 for electroless Nickel plating. Add $35 for muzzle brake. In the 90% condition range between $175 and $225 and the same $ for the add-ons mentioned. Not known for much in the way of collectibility and certainly not one of MY favorites but to each his own!

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  • 03110311 Member Posts: 148 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It depends on who likes them. Me I have about 5 of them and have paid up to $500 for one with with the muzzle brake. They have been pretty steady showing up on the auctions. The Grendel R31 which is the carbine is really hard to find, I paid $707 for mine and have seen them go for up to $1100. Sometimes I think I pay too much for mine, but then I think about it being the only 30 shot 22 magnum and chances are unless the AWB sunsets there will not be anything like it available.
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  • A J ChristA J Christ Member Posts: 7,534 ✭
    edited November -1
    Never seen one that would fire off a whole magazine without a jam of somekind. Other than that, nice and interesting pistol.
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  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290 ✭
    edited November -1
    Best darn plinkin', IPSC, CQB pistols made. If it jams, you're shooting CCI ammo, which is crap in semiautos.
    I own several P30's, an R31, and 2 "carbine-length" P30M's. I have fired literally thousands of rounds through all but the carbines, and the only failure was when the slide jumped the rails on a P30 I had reassembled incorrectly-didn't press down on both sides of the slide correctly when installing-nobody hurt, gun back in use in less than a minute, properly done.
    Most I've seen 'em go for is $800 for a P30M with 3 mags, unfired in box.
    Those that denigrate this pistol's performance should stick to sniping at our troops overseas; excellent design, high capacity, innovative polymers, easy maintenance.
    Only thing wrong with them is that they're no longer made, and if a part breaks; you may have to get another to cannibalize.
    1KYDSTR- the value guide you quote must be out-of-date by at least 7 years; I challenge you to find ONE that cheap! In fact; I'd be surprised to find a magazine for less than $100.

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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One other thing wrong with them is that they are major ugly. Other than that I support all gunnut505 says. Never, ever had a misfire (I don't shoot cci either).

    He Dog
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  • 1KYDSTR1KYDSTR Member Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gunnut505...2003 edition of the Blue book of gun Values included with Guntracker 2.3 softwear...I don't give out info that is out of date, simply realistic, non-inflated wholesale values. The second the September date goes by things should return to a sane level!Just because someone doesn't share your "tastes" doesn't mean they are not supportive of our troops. This is what they refer to as Specious logic at best...Argumentum ad Hominem at worst! As to sniping at our troops overseas...bite me! I have several friends over there now or about to return and I take the gravest exception to your comments! Think about what you are saying and to whom as I'll gladly verbally pound you to smithereens for that one! Why do you think this weapon is no longer being made? If it were that exceptional the Clinton ban would likely not have taken it out of circulation!. I'm sure it is a decent weapon but all of this is subject to interpretation and a matter of personnal taste(s). Good luck finding parts too! Likely the ugliest (MY opinion which I assume I'm still entiltled to!) pistol made in the last 25 years...looks like an assortment of Lego's and sewer pipes in my book. Function over form is one thing but egads!!

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    "Power corrupts...Absolute power corrupts absolutely"(Descartes?)
    "History is written by winners"(Patton)
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  • 03110311 Member Posts: 148 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the best round for this pistol, and the cheapest since 22 magnum ammo is right up there price wise with some of the other major centerfire handgun rounds.
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  • 1KYDSTR1KYDSTR Member Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi 311. I would have to think that the best round for these would be the new generation of 30 grain copper jacketed roundsbeing made for the WMR. These are currently being pushed as a catch up measure to compete with the 17 HMR to pick up speed and flatten out the trajectory. I would think that these rounds, being harder than the traditional lead heads would be better for the feeding potential of the Grendels. The one guy I shoot with that has one is using the Remington round and seems to have fairly consistant results with it. Additionally I have seen some RWS ammo that is similar but the Remington is much more reasonably priced. As to my earlier comments regarding the Grendel guns, please understand that I was giving book values and with further research I have concluded that my other 2 sources AGREE with the values I listed. I have several Tokarev rifles in excellent condition and they list at about $350 to $400 in their kind of shape. Having said that, they are going much higher than that on the various auction sites, somewhere in the area of $600 to $800. Would I sell mine for book value? Heck no, I didn't just fall off that turnip truck!! As with anything, the price is determined by what the market will bear and one would get as much as possible for any item put up for sale. I was OBVIOUSLY wrong on the level of collectability of these guns though as evidenced by the very passionate responses JZXL got to the post and I profer my appologies if I have unfairly denegrated your fondness of the guns in question. All the other comments I've made stand though as regards BOOK values.

    "When I cease learning...I'm dead"(Me)
    "Power corrupts...Absolute power corrupts absolutely"(Descartes?)
    "History is written by winners"(Patton)
    "You get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than you do with a kind word alone!"(Al Capone)
    "There is nothing lower than the human race...except the French" (Samuel Clemens)
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  • 03110311 Member Posts: 148 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    1KYDSTR: Thanks for the info about what kind of ammo to use for these pistols.


    jzxl: I looked back to your post and saw that your pistol was in brand new condition/never fired. I have never seen one that has never been fired so it should sell pretty good.

    If you have spare parts for it that is even better, I understand that some of the Grendel's were sold with some kind of an accessory pack (extra firing pins and such). I just bought a couple of them and they were not cheap, I am trying to figure out if I can make them at a machinist place.
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  • hankmd38hankmd38 Member Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am willing to pay $500.00 for a Grendel P-30 , in good condition, with a 30 round clip
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