Help me decide on a Glock 27 or Bersa 380

Mr.Synthetic

I know what your already thinking "Why the hell would this guy be comparing the two?" Well... I'm not. I realize that there really isn't much comparison between the two except for they are both excellent for concealed carry, which is what I'm looking for. I'm 21 and this will be my first semi-auto handgun (shot many but have never owned)

Now the thing is the Bersa seems like a very nice little handgun priced at $199, the Glock on the other hand... well it's a Glock, and a .40 (not interested in the 9mm) priced at $513 - adjustable site model.

Frankly I like the feel of the Bersa better, and also the fact that it's a double action... which I like. The Glock on the other hand is nice because again it's a Glock, it will hold it's value well and will always be reliable.

The extra money for the Glock really isn't the MAIN issue since I have a little saved up, although having the extra $300 to spend on something else wouldn't make me complain by any means.

This brings me to the final question: Is it better to just buy the little .380 and be happy with it or should I just say screw it and spring for the nicer concealed gun? I mean what would YOU do?

hksrule

You just need to shoot more guns with the ccw class. Basically the .380 will work as a back up but it may take more than one to bring down a goon carcus. I would recommend the glock because, A) you get what you pay for with guns and , glocks are quite proven to perform in ANY condition so it wont fail on you unless it is the one out of a million that has a flaw. I personaly dont care too much for the glock because i get drunk a lot and like the fact that my usp .45 has a manual safety like the venerable colt .45 acp. Just thing about this...almost every cop or law eforcement agency is issued a glock 9mm or .40cal. There is a reason for this my friend. Never buy and trust a gun with your life if its less than 200 bucks unless you get a hell of a deal or buy one nasty pellet gun.

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Winchester-mutt

quote:Never buy and trust a gun with your life if its less than 200 bucks unless you get a hell of a deal or buy one nasty pellet gun.

Man, is that ever a WRONG statement! There is a HUGE difference in a cheap gun and an inexpensive gun. A Bersa, along with a Kel-Tec, is an inexpensive gun. In no way are they cheap! I carry my Bersa every single day and after literally thousands of rounds, it has NEVER failed. Well, once, but I was using Silver Bear ammo!

Mr.Synthetic, if the Bersa fits you, as you say it does, then buy it. Some will tell you a 380 is too small for a carry weapon, but there is some great ammo out there that makes it more than acceptable for defense. And if the gun fits you, and you like it, and it is small enough for you to carry, you WILL carry it. That beats the gun that doesn't fit you and is larger, so you DON'T carry it. First rule is to have a gun at a gun fight!

Personally, I like the Bersa over a Glock (except for those Glock posters! WOWZA!).

gskyhawk

sure having a big gun is nice but sooner or later you're going to leave that big gun in the car because you can't conceal it , if you like the
Bersa then buy it ,
you should take a look at the Kel-Tec line of pistols, nice guns for their size and they shoot great ,
good luck which ever way you go and just make sure you run several hundred rounds thru it to make sure it functions right

Invicta

i would definately choose the glock for concealed carry. the .40cal has plenty of power (about double that of the .380) and recoil isn't all that bad. i shot a glock 27 recently and thought that is was a pretty nice gun except for the sights (it had the green hi-viz front sight) but you can always get different sights.

Mr.Synthetic

I considered a keltec but I didn't like the 9 pound trigger pull when I shoot my buddies 9mm. I also shot a Glock 27 at the range and it was alright I suppose, expect it didn't feel as nice in my hand as the Bersa 380... which I haven't had a chance to fire yet. I know both keltec and Bersa make very nice guns for the price already after some research.

I mean is the Glock REALLY that much nicer of a gun then the Bersa? If they both shoot accurate, don't jam or double feed then really what is the difference?

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kenneth and melissa

quote:Originally posted by hksrule
Never buy and trust a gun with your life if its less than 200 bucks unless you get a hell of a deal or buy one nasty pellet gun.

WordBorn!!

This is incorrect a few guns i have purchased for 200 or under
Bersa 380
Ruger p-89
Ruger Blackhawk 30 cal.
Cz-75
Smith&wesson 38 Revolver
That is just to name a few
The Bersa is an okay gun for the money. My wife and i feel the pull on the slide is a little hard. I personally dont like the 380 cal.
I would look for at least something 9mm or larger
So if the bersa and 380 is your choices and money is not an issue
I would go with the glock due to the cal. size Thats just me and mho.

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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Salvage33

I have to agree that if the Bersa fits your hand and you feel comfortable with it, then buy it. You might also want to check out the Bersa Thunder in 45ACP. Great gun, handles well, shoots anything that you feed it, and the price is around $350 per copy. You can always buy another gun at a later time! [:)]

But whichever one you buy, practice with it, become so familiar with it that you can reload it in total darkness. Keep it clean, and learn everything you can about it.

There are cheap guns and there are inexpensive guns, and for me, Bersa is an inexpensive gun, not cheap.

My two cents worth.

John



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ker2222

If you have decided you like the .380 and you are willing to have not much trade in value, I would strongly recomend the Bersa. It is not a work of art. It is not a collector piece, it is not a "glamour, cops carry it and I rappers sing about it brand."

But, I've owned it and it was 100% reliable and a great shooter. Its easy to conceal. Go for it.

jsergovic

The Firestorm Mini in 40S&W is a 10+1.

A Para Carry Option, a 45ACP, would be my choice. The one without with the bobbed beavertail grip safety. 7+1

A Sig P-232 is slick, as is the P-239 (380ACP or 9mm//357Sig/40S&W).

The Thunder 380 has excellent reviews, and a friend uses it often all day as an open carry piece at his gunshop.

I shy from the Glocks because of their boxiness, but the P-239 is squared-off, too ...

allechalley

The Bersa is $200, the Glock $500+. I've always found the Glock a litle "blocky" for CCW but that doesn't mean for all people. Some just don't like the Glock trigger, some love it. It does take a little different mindset. The Bersa is not as well finished, but still a solid weapon. The point is, you absolutley need to go to a range that offers both to rent or find a couple guys that have them, if possible, to try shooting. The .40 is not a tough caliber to control, depending on the weapon. But the .380 and the .40 are worlds apart. If a CCW gun, you definitely want to shoot both to see if either instills confidence and can be worn comfortably for YOU.

offeror

You say you haven't shot the Bersa yet -- that's a big deal. There's more to a gun that how it feels in the hand, a lot more. If the 9-pound pull on a Kel-Tec was more than you liked, you need to consider how the Bersa trigger pull feels, whether you can count on the gun with your ammo choice, whether the mags get tired and the feed lips start popping out rounds on their own.

Glocks come with a standard 5-lb trigger pull that you can have reduced to 3-lbs -- for every shot, first to last. Their mags feed and keep on feeding, the feed lips don't get tired, and the action just works with every type of ammo. They are a bit blocky in both the slide and the grip, but I've let a lot of people shoot mine and they invariably come away liking the Glock best, even against guns with more comfortable grips -- wood, Pachmayrs -- the Glock seems to win hearts for its ease in the shooting.

I'm not saying the Bersa is a bad gun, and I think once you've shot it you can better make up your own mind, but if you ask me what I WOULD choose, which you did, I would choose the Glock 27. It even fits my front jeans pocket.

You do tend to get what you pay for, unless we are talking good buys in the used gun market. If I could get a used CZ-75 type compact for $200 I'd snap it up, for example. But there are a lot of good guns between $200 and $500, as you probably know, and you might want to look at a SIG P230 or a PPK if you really prefer the .380. And you can now get a hi-power compact or a CZ compact in .40, as well. Like I said, plenty of choices out there $200-500.

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