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NAZI MEDALIAN INFORMATION

gynae@aol.comgynae@aol.com Member Posts: 49 ✭✭
edited April 2004 in Ask the Experts
Help again! I have an odd cased NAZI medalian. First, the case is a hard cover hinged, blue / grey in color and snaps shut. Marked Carl Poellath Schrobenhausen in small print on the inside. The medalian is 3.75" across and dark grey metal. On the back it is marked N.S. KAMPFSPIELE 1939 ZWEITER PLATZ. On the front it says 1939 REICHSPARTEITAG and shows a neked woman lying down, bare breasts, baby holding flowers at her knees and a stand of grapes, with the NAZI flying eagle carrying the swatztker (spl?). Any ideas? What was it? Value? ***** 4-23-04 update: The issue is on the word KAMPFSPIELE. By splitting the word, we can get KAMPF - fight or struggle, and SPIELE - games. OK, so it was some formal contest, held on the national party day of 1939. But it is not the correct term for boxing or wrestling. Does anyone know EXACTLY what that German word means? Bruce
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    WEll it means National Socialistische (national socialist) fighting games 1939 2nd place, 1939 national party day.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jonk's translation is correct. I think it's probably for boxing.

    What men call a hero...is merely a man who is seen doing what a brave man does as a matter of course.
    A man who is in love with learning is a man who is never without a bride, for there is always more. L'Amour
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  • gynae@aol.comgynae@aol.com Member Posts: 49 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can believe the translation for the wording, but I can't follow it as for the imprint show a half naked woman, a baby holding flowers and a stand of grape vines with 4 bunches of grapes. Nothing about fighting. Can anyone add to this? Bruce
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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These were "Day Badges" I have about 40 or 50, all different. They are mostly pin-backs and were sold for 50 pfenning up to 1 and 2 RM. Kind of like we have flag lapel pins and whatnot. The money went to the Nazi party. Any occasion was good enough to sell them at. Labor Day, Sports Day, the Nurmberg Rallies, etc.

    The designs could be anything related to the Nazi Party, National Socialism, the Labor Front, the Olympic Games, in short, any holiday, organisation. Quite a number are women and babies as they constituted the backbone of Der Deutsche Volk.

    What men call a hero...is merely a man who is seen doing what a brave man does as a matter of course.
    A man who is in love with learning is a man who is never without a bride, for there is always more. L'Amour
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  • OleDukOleDuk Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jonk, P3, ain't it "Dem Deutscher Volk" vie Reichstag?
    Bruce, it's swastika.
    OleDuk[:o)][;)][:D]
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    das Volk. Das is a definite article, without further context it's nomnative, hence, "das deutsche Volk". The only way it would be dem is in dative, for instance: Hitler hat dem deutschen (ending changes with different case) Volk gesagt, dass sie Lebensraum brauchten. Hitler said TO (hence dative) the german people, that they needed living space.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • OleDukOleDuk Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi, jonk, haven't been on for a day or two. Reason I asked the question is that I believe the motto over the Reichstag entrance uses the article "dem". Is that an instance of an understood dative case like ..to the German people..., or ...for the German people...? I never lived in the Austrian society to enable getting a real grip on all of their articles. I sure loved being in that country, however.
    How'd your studies go?
    OleDuk[:)]
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  • boltthrowerboltthrower Member Posts: 212 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gun fits into this topic...where?
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  • OleDukOleDuk Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyplace an expert wants to put it, BT.
    OleDuk[?]
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  • boltthrowerboltthrower Member Posts: 212 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oh, in that case, I have a piece of wood with the words "Lumber" inscribed in it, looks like English. Any gun experts give me more info on this please.
    Can we lock this one now?
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