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I got this off another forum.Anyone know anything about this?
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"I spent some time looking into this today. I called UPS and spoke with a supervisor. I asked about separating a pistol into 2 separate boxes for shipping. Even though the frame is legally considered a firearm, UPS does not consider it a firearm if it is not a functioning weapon. It IS permissible to separate your pistol or revolver into 2 boxes and ship them by UPS Ground as "firearm parts" as long as neither box contains a functioning firearm. Even better, you can ship "firearms parts" from any authorized UPS shipper such as The UPS Store.
I contacted Fed Ex and they will not allow any firearm, assembled or disassembled, to be shipped by Fed Ex Ground. It must be shipped by Fed Ex Priority Overnight."
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"I spent some time looking into this today. I called UPS and spoke with a supervisor. I asked about separating a pistol into 2 separate boxes for shipping. Even though the frame is legally considered a firearm, UPS does not consider it a firearm if it is not a functioning weapon. It IS permissible to separate your pistol or revolver into 2 boxes and ship them by UPS Ground as "firearm parts" as long as neither box contains a functioning firearm. Even better, you can ship "firearms parts" from any authorized UPS shipper such as The UPS Store.
I contacted Fed Ex and they will not allow any firearm, assembled or disassembled, to be shipped by Fed Ex Ground. It must be shipped by Fed Ex Priority Overnight."
And Remember a Wet Dog Dosen't Fly at Night
ATF,Eagle Guns
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The repair shop has no FFL. UPS wants a FFL to ship.
Any options??
Thank you much,
Bill
I am an FFL dealer.
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ATF,Eagle Guns
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And Remember a Wet Dog Doesn't Fly at Night
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I suggest shipping the same way UPS dictates-overnight.
Your question will not likely ever be answered correctly.
I still ship overnight.
You do not even want to go to the other posts. I did review and did not respond. Everyone is an expert! Let the other "experts" argue
among themselves. Still like your eagle!
101, Angeles Arms
"The GCA specifies under Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(3), that a firearm frame or receiver is also considered to be a "firearm" under Federal firearms law. Therefore, the GCA provisions governing shipments of handgun frames or receivers would be applicable in exactly the same way as they are to complete handguns."
In any case, there is nothing in the UPS tariff that says that they do not consider a receiver to be a firearm. On the contrary, they specifically state that all Federal regulations apply to the shipment of firearms by them.
While a nonlicensee can legally ship a firearm to a licensee, Federal law requires the shipping nonlicensee to notify the common carrier that the package contains a firearm. Declaring a receiver to be a "firearm part" would be a violation of the law. Hardly worth the pain that could cause just to save $30.
Neal
ATF, it looked to me like the law permitted the shipping of "parts" as has been suggested, so I wrote to ATF for a legal opinion. I received this response from the chief, Firearms Enforcement Branch:
"The GCA specifies under Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(3), that a firearm frame or receiver is also considered to be a "firearm" under Federal firearms law. Therefore, the GCA provisions governing shipments of handgun frames or receivers would be applicable in exactly the same way as they are to complete handguns."
In any case, there is nothing in the UPS tariff that says that they do not consider a receiver to be a firearm. On the contrary, they specifically state that all Federal regulations apply to the shipment of firearms by them.
While a nonlicensee can legally ship a firearm to a licensee, Federal law requires the shipping nonlicensee to notify the common carrier that the package contains a firearm. Declaring a receiver to be a "firearm part" would be a violation of the law. Hardly worth the pain that could cause just to save $30.
Neal
The declaration would only be required when shipping to a nonlicensee. It's not required when shipping to an FFL holder.
Well that would be great. But the ffl dealer would get cut out, because then he couldnt ship your pistol for you. Pistols can only be shipped from ffl dealer to ffl dealer..Lets see what developes..
There is no requirment in Federal law for any firearms to be shipped by a licensee. Only the recipient needs to be licensed, and there are even exceptions to that requirement. I have a letter from the Firearms Technology Branch of BATF in DC confirming that fact.
Read the text at the link.
FedEx Ground WILL ship a long gun. I have done so. There is, however, no guarantee that the FedEx counter attendant will fully understand the company policy. As a non-licensee, FedEx has become my carrier of choice for shipping both handguns and long guns. Handgun shipping by Priority Overnight is not inexpensive as many of you already know.
quote:Originally posted by TED GAR
Well that would be great. But the ffl dealer would get cut out, because then he couldnt ship your pistol for you. Pistols can only be shipped from ffl dealer to ffl dealer..Lets see what developes..
My my - hope you don't get lambasted as a troll, etc. like I did a few days ago when I said the same thing. GOOD LUCK!!
That's because you were wrong![8D][:D]
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