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Shotgun Question

cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
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I have a Hopkins & Allen lever action drop block single shot 12 ga.
ser.# 1417. This weapon has one single ring screw to remove the barrel.lower front of reciever block. Age? Value? good condition.
Thanks for any help.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last year was my first to go pheasant hunting and I loved it. I used my pump shotgun and noticed one problem. I am left handed and the crossbolt safty is completly backward to me it proved to be a pain to reach under when you are trying to get a quick shot. So my question is who makes a semi auto shotgun with a left hand friendly safety? I know about the mossberg 930 (thumb safety) and some of the more expensive guns have reversible crossbolts. Any thoughts or suggestions. Cant be over $600.
    Thanks,
    Craig
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Central Arms Co. 16 gauge, double barrel. Can anyone tell me anything about this gun? I've never heard of Central Arms before and can't find any info on it. It still has some browning color to it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here's what you see on the side of the gun.
    6016 Central Arms Co.
    St Loius. U.S.A.
    Pat. APR.20-1915

    Respectfully,
    BigDawg5.56
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A neighbor wants to sell an O/U 12 gauge made buy Nikko Arms Co Ltd. made in Neckerman West Germany.I can't find it in any of my books and I thought Nikko's were all made in Japan.It is in nice condition except for what looks like a couple blood spots that were not wiped off before putting away.It has 28" barrels fixed chokes F&M and an engraved receiver.Does anyone know the approximate age,quality and ballpark value? I realize that without pictures it is just a wild guess but I'm thinking it would made a nice field gun. Thanks
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently bought my first shotgun (Remington 870 Express Magnum with a 26" Barrel). I was talking to the guy at the store about hunting deer with this gun & he informed me that I would need to buy a new choke to shoot slugs as the choke i have now is for clay pigeons. My question is what sort of choke would I need to buy? I also heard something about changing the barrel too, but am not positive? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking at getting an O/U shotgun and wanted to get a couple of opinions about Ithaca, Winchester (96 or 101), Ruger, and any less expensive "great guns for the money" types.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The other night on the Modern Marvels TV program they had a segment showing an Ithaca model 37 pump emptying it's tube as fast as the shooter could pump it. The trigger was held back in the fire position the whole time. Is this a LEO only feature? Do other pumps, like the Mossberg, operate the same way?

    Thanks guys,
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey everyone, if this isn't the place to put this sorry, i wasn't sure where to post it, but i wanted some opinions, does anyone use a 20 gauge for waterfowl, anything, ducks, geese, etc, i was just wondering if it had enough power to take down one of these animals, what lenth barrel would be suitable? Would a 24 inch barrel be okay?, please give me your opinions and im sorry if this is posted in the wrong area...

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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to buy a 12 Gauge semi auto shotgun. I'm not sure of the model or manufacturer, but I'm looking for a relatively affordable gun with the pistol grips, a folding stock (a stock like the AR-15 has would be nice), and a detachable magazine.

    Any suggestions?
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a question, I currently own a Remington 870 Marine Magnum with 18" barrel, factory mag. extension (8rds I believe), aftermarket folding stock made by butler creek (holds 3 shells), front pistol grip, rear pistol grip, 6 shot side saddle, halo sites, sling, heat shroud, surefire combat mounted to magazine, gun is over 26 inches in total length, and as I said the barrel is 18" and is factory from Remington. Am I violating any laws I reside in FL, a local gun dealer told me I was with the addition of the folding stock. I want to keep my gun legal, so if I need to remove something I will. Thanks very much. ALso on a side note does adding a cylinder feeding magazine to a pump action shotgun make it illegal.

    I was told that as long as a shotgun was a pump any alterations could be made to it as long as it wasn't to the reciever. But semi auto shotguns could be considered destructive devices so they would be illegal to alter. Is this correct?
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been doing ALOT of reading on shotguns/shells and saw that there are flares made for use in a shotgun. but every search I have done has came up dry. Hoping the all knowing gods of GB can point me in the right direction.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Although there have been several shotgun topics here I am still unsure of which gun I want to purchase. I am looking for a 12 gauge, preferably semi-auto which will shoot 2 3/4- 3 and 3 1/2 shells. I would like to find one gun to use for turkey hunting, duck hunting, goose hunting, and the occasional clay pigeon shoot with the family. Money is not a huge issue. I want something reliable that will last, and that I won't be afraid to take out in the rain or snow. I had an old 1100 that I liked, but it only shot 2 3/4. I recently shot a 935 and was not too impressed with it. I couldn't get it to cycle the 2 3/4. If anyone has any suggestions I would sure appreciate it.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a H&R Topper 88 12ga. in 3" full. I was wanting to know if I can shoot magnum turkey loads in this gun safely. Thanks for the help! earndawg
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  • tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    some shotguns usually old ones that dont have a trigger disconnect can be fired this way (win 97, galley rifles also)

    870s, mossberg as such do not have this ability (which is good for nothing anyway)
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Winchester Model 1893, 1897/97, and 1912 shotguns could all be fired in the fashion you describe. Simply pull and hold the trigger and pump & fire away.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • PearywPearyw Member Posts: 3,699
    edited November -1
    When 37s were being made back in the 1970's, you could order them with or without the disconnector. I ordered an 8 shot parkerized one without the disconnector,with rifle sights, and with a left handed safety.
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  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The redneck method was to wire the trigger back on these, then all you had to do was pump the fore end to fire.

    It works, but is so unsafe it's downright scarey.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info guys.
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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Txs, The rednecks in your area must have more ammo to waste than we do in Arkansas.
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  • heavyironheavyiron Member Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi,

    I saw the same program. I think these must be a LEO and military feature only.

    It is dangerous to fire a weapon in this manner although a great many people have done it over the years including me. The manufacturers don't like making weapons without disconnectors because the breach can be opened before the chamber pressure drops to a safe level. This increases their liability if somebody gets hurt as you can imagine.

    The only recent production shotgun I aware of that came without a disconnector was the Norinco reproduction of the Winchester 97.

    Regards,

    Heavyiron
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