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S&W M38 Hidden Hammer

webleywebley Member Posts: 154 ✭✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
Can anyone tell me the approximat date of mfg of an Airweight S&W serial number 9x7J10 and what were the finish options? This finish looks more like a beautiful paint job than being bluied.

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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You may want to post a photo.

    I have seen several older revolvers (Colt & S&W) at gun shows lately that had what looked like beautiful paint jobs ---- because that's what they WERE! At least, I was familiar with these particular models & knew they never left the factory with a matte black finish.

    You might want to give the model number of your gun, as several models with aluminum frames were called "airweight". I am unaware of any factory finish other than blue or nickel.

    Neal
  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    You may want to post a photo.

    I have seen several older revolvers (Colt & S&W) at gun shows lately that had what looked like beautiful paint jobs ---- because that's what they WERE! At least, I was familiar with these particular models & knew they never left the factory with a matte black finish.

    You might want to give the model number of your gun, as several models with aluminum frames were called "airweight". I am unaware of any factory finish other than blue or nickel.

    Neal




    I bought a brand new Model 38 airweight in the 1980's or early 1990's and it has a flat black finish! Most of them had that finish in the lightweight frame. Its blueing but with a very satin type finish. Smooth and not rough.
  • webleywebley Member Posts: 154 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I should have written that it SA-DA as the hammer is shrouded and can still be cocked by hand. Also is the +P ammo to much for it as I believe it was made in the 1960+ years.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm glad Sig brought me up to date --- by the late '80's, most of the real gun shops in my state were gone.

    Webley, if you open the cylinder on your gun you should find the model number stamped on the part of the frame that is covered by the cylinder crane when it is closed.

    I would only fire +P ammo in my airweight if it were a life-or-death situation. It was not designed to handle that much pressure. No, it wouldn't blow up, but a relatively small number of rounds would stretch the frame to the point that it would become unusable.

    Neal
  • webleywebley Member Posts: 154 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like the opening title reads, its a m-38. Would still like to know about how old it is.
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    I'm glad Sig brought me up to date --- by the late '80's, most of the real gun shops in my state were gone.

    Webley, if you open the cylinder on your gun you should find the model number stamped on the part of the frame that is covered by the cylinder crane when it is closed.

    I would only fire +P ammo in my airweight if it were a life-or-death situation. It was not designed to handle that much pressure. No, it wouldn't blow up, but a relatively small number of rounds would stretch the frame to the point that it would become unusable.

    Neal


    As a matter of record, the newer model Smith Airweights are rated for .38+P (says so on the frame).

    While frame stretching was a problem with the first generation of the alloy frame revolvers, the newer guns have been "torture tested" with thousands of rounds of +P ammo and do hold up.

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Guns-Firearms-Projectile-1501/High-pressure-ammo.htm
    http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/review/Model_60-15.htm

    Point is, if the gun is rated for +P, then go ahead and use +P ammo if you want to.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is an unusual looking serial number for a Smith & Wesson. Open the cylinder and look at the yoke. It should have a model number and serial number stamped into the yoke. It may also have the serial number on the bottom of the butt.

    I know this isn't the same Smith & Wesson you are talking about, but the model number and serial number should be in the same place on modern (post 1957) Smiths.

    With the model number and serial number, giving you a date of manufacture should be an easy trick.

    ModelNumber.jpg
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  • webleywebley Member Posts: 154 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Inside the yoke it reads M-38 + 59667. On the butt it reads 917J10.
    Could this be a repair. The pistol does look well cared for.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your Model 38 has a pinned barrel, it was made between 1957 and 1982. If it does not have a pinned barrel, it was made between 1982 and 1988. The model 38-1 started in 1988.

    1971/1972 were the only years they used the 999J99 format serial number, so my guess is you have a pinned barrel model 38 made in 1971 or 1972. This picture shows where the pin is located on a pinned barrel. If you have dial-up, I apologize for all the pictures, but sometimes it's easier for me to describe things if I use a picture.

    PinnedBarrel.jpg

    This is what the Standard Catalog ofr Smith & Wesson, Second Edition says about the Smith & Wesson Model 38:

    M381.jpg
    M382.jpg
    M383.jpg
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