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T1jetmech; Long range cartridge continued
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T1jetmech,
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ADDED:
I brought your original post forward and added that to your second request.
Best.
First post:
I hate that this is my first post on here but I was directed to this forum for this very question. I would like your opinions on a good long range rifle round. I am looking for a round that is capible of maintaining good energy (supersonic) to about 500 yds but won't make me quit shooting after 5 rounds and go get some ben-gay for my shoulder. I used to shoot a Browning A-Bolt in 22-250 and loved it...real pleasure to shoot. The only problem is 500 yds consistently was hard to obtain unless I shot on the calmest of days. I don't have alot of local knowledge to pull from on this issue. It is just a hand full of friends that enjoy long range shooting and none of us have any knowledge about the WSSM rounds other that what we read in the Mags. I joined this site to days ago and I have been reading alot of the posts...it would seem everyone hates hairy and he hates everyone... I have been leaning towards the 25-06 but I would like some input about the WSSM rounds from people that have shot them. Any opinion would be great. Thanks-Jonathan
Second Post:
Thank you all for the opinions. I know I have a great deal more reading and research before I buy a long range shooter. I also know I need to learn to "drive" out to those ranges. But there is a big difference in driving a pinto and driving, say a Toyota camry. I can learn to drive both, but the Camry is more fun and more reliable. So that's what i am trying to do here...weed out the "pinto" versions of rounds from the Camry's. I know there makes a difference by brands too, but brand loyality seems to get pretty heated on forums and i wanted to really discuss calibers. Several of you mentioned stock design. Never really occured to me. What characteristics of stock design dictate what results? I must admit I was lured by the "magic" of the WSSM hype. But I will be checking out the links nononsense put up. Living in Mississippi I don't get much prairie dog hunting but we do get Nutras that are very smart...when your watching a pond, it is nice to be able to take out a musk rat or beaver or nutra on the other side without skipping your round off the water. I know that takes pratice...and a round capible of reaching 450-500 and still kill the varmit. The 22-250 just wounded them. I didn't like just wounding them...didn't seem right. I would prefer a decisive kill. Does anyone have a link or article on stock designs and their impact on shooting?
We lock all topics at 10 posts or as close to it as we can get to prevent protracted discussions that drift off topic. I C&P'ed your last questions to a new topic so you could get more feedback.
Good luck with the search!
ADDED:
I brought your original post forward and added that to your second request.
Best.
First post:
I hate that this is my first post on here but I was directed to this forum for this very question. I would like your opinions on a good long range rifle round. I am looking for a round that is capible of maintaining good energy (supersonic) to about 500 yds but won't make me quit shooting after 5 rounds and go get some ben-gay for my shoulder. I used to shoot a Browning A-Bolt in 22-250 and loved it...real pleasure to shoot. The only problem is 500 yds consistently was hard to obtain unless I shot on the calmest of days. I don't have alot of local knowledge to pull from on this issue. It is just a hand full of friends that enjoy long range shooting and none of us have any knowledge about the WSSM rounds other that what we read in the Mags. I joined this site to days ago and I have been reading alot of the posts...it would seem everyone hates hairy and he hates everyone... I have been leaning towards the 25-06 but I would like some input about the WSSM rounds from people that have shot them. Any opinion would be great. Thanks-Jonathan
Second Post:
Thank you all for the opinions. I know I have a great deal more reading and research before I buy a long range shooter. I also know I need to learn to "drive" out to those ranges. But there is a big difference in driving a pinto and driving, say a Toyota camry. I can learn to drive both, but the Camry is more fun and more reliable. So that's what i am trying to do here...weed out the "pinto" versions of rounds from the Camry's. I know there makes a difference by brands too, but brand loyality seems to get pretty heated on forums and i wanted to really discuss calibers. Several of you mentioned stock design. Never really occured to me. What characteristics of stock design dictate what results? I must admit I was lured by the "magic" of the WSSM hype. But I will be checking out the links nononsense put up. Living in Mississippi I don't get much prairie dog hunting but we do get Nutras that are very smart...when your watching a pond, it is nice to be able to take out a musk rat or beaver or nutra on the other side without skipping your round off the water. I know that takes pratice...and a round capible of reaching 450-500 and still kill the varmit. The 22-250 just wounded them. I didn't like just wounding them...didn't seem right. I would prefer a decisive kill. Does anyone have a link or article on stock designs and their impact on shooting?
Comments
I didn't respond to your original post so I'm jsut going to throw some Ideas your way. First is the 25WSSM. I can achieve published 25-06 factory velocities with it using 117's and 120's. Mine is not accurized, but it has the trajectory and a much reduced wind drift factor from the .308 and 30-06. Next is the 25-06. There is room to grow from published velocities on that one. Or, if you want something unique use a .257 Ackley improved.
6.5's and 7mm's give the least drift at the velocities they can drive their heaviest bullets. 6.5 Swede and 7mm Mauser will easily get you out to 1000 yds.without pounding you. I'm shooting a 7x57 that I load with Berger 168's loaded out to 2660 fps. Even at a reduced velocity this has better wind bucking capabilities than do the .25 cals. It doesn't kick a lot either. I have a 7mm WSM that wants to boot you pretty hard and for only a couple hundred FPS gain I don't always like to shoot it. The 6.5 has a lot of good bullets for it because for a while the 6.5-.284 was cleaning up the long range shooting competitions. Believe it or not that is giving way to 6mm's.