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Winchester 1907

golfbuggolfbug Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
How do you get the first bullet into the chamber? There is nothing on the outside of the gun to do anything with.--Called self loading.
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  • golfbuggolfbug Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just won a Winchester 1907 off GB. Good price and I'll be in the seller's city next weekend - with my C & R FFL, so no shipping and thanks to OR no sales tax.

    http://www.GunBroker.com/item/565517516

    Can anyone venture a good opinion on whether the bluing is original? I'm inclined to say yes, but then again I'd like the answer to be yes. I think I can save the original wood but would be OK replacing if they're available.

    I've picked up some spare parts from Numrich (springs, extractor) and reloading dies, .351 bullets from Grafs. I'm guessing tracking down brass (Jamison I guess) will be a challenge, everyone seems out now.

    Does anyone know the threading/size for the tang sight filler screws and a source for a replacement buttplate?

    I knew the gun and caliber would be a pit of a project, but since getting a 63 in 22 lr this has been on my list.
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  • golfbuggolfbug Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was hoping I could get some help from a Winchester expert. I have a first year production 1907 with what appears to be a factory installed Lyman 41 sight. The barrel dovetail is filled and doesn't appear to have ever had a leaf sight installed. Also, the serial number is stamped on the triggerguard. The bottom corner of the frame where the number is normally stamped is covered by the receiver sight. When I removed the sight to clean it, I found there was no serial number under it. My question is, would this add much to the value of the rifle and would it be worth getting a Cody letter for it?

    thanks for any help, Tim
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  • golfbuggolfbug Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone know a good web page that has how to take apart and clean this rifle? Any suggestions will help. I don't know a great deal about this rifle.
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello On the front of the wooden forearm there is a metal projection about 2 inches long you take your hand and pull this to the rear That will work the bolt 35 winchester self loading 351 winchester self loading 401 Winchester self loading and winchester model 63 22 semi auto all work this way Hope this helps Karl.
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As perry pointed out, under the barrel (protruding from the nose cap) is a round steel rod. After locking the 5-round (or 10-round) magazine into the receiver, put your forefinger on the concave round piece on the end of the rod and pull it towards the receiver until it stops, then let it go (it will slam forward under spring pressure, and load the cartridge into the chamber). If you want to lock the bolt open, after pulling the rod (and bolt) all the way to the rear, twist the rod in either direction approximately 1/4 turn. After doing so, you should see a small milled section on the top of the rod that resembles the contour of the barrel... that must be realigned with the barrel to release the rod and close the action.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • golfbuggolfbug Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you.--I have some 351 ammo coming next week.---I tried pulling down on it, but it will not move at all.---Hopfully will once ammo is put into the clip.
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by golfbug
    Thank you.--I have some 351 ammo coming next week.---I tried pulling down on it, but it will not move at all.---Hopfully will once ammo is put into the clip.


    The rod should be able to be pulled to the rear with or without a loaded magazine being inserted in the gun. It is under a fair amount of spring pressure, so don't be shy about pulling on it quite vigorously. I would suggest that you try it without a magazine being in the gun.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe the slide is already to the rear and locked back as someone posted above. Can you see into the side of the action? If so, you will have to rotate the operating rod and let it go forward. Early models had a round button on the end of the operating rod. Later ones had a curved tip. Either works the same way.

    Warning: Make sure nothing, like your finger, is in the side of the action when you twist the operating rod. The bolt will go forward with some force.
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  • golfbuggolfbug Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you.---It worked, I just was not pushing hard enough.
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