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H & R 32 Self-Loading Pistol

kamfroskipkamfroskip Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
edited May 2007 in Ask the Experts
I have a Harrington & Richard Arms Company Self-Loading 32 Caliber pistol made in Worcester, Ma in the early 1900's. It is in it's original box with the 3-in-one oil-(corked bottle), and cleaning rod. It is in a double boxed blue case" and written in the inside cover is "Harrington & Richardson Arms Company Worcester, MA., USA Self-Loading Pistol Caliber 32 or 7.65m/m Patented August 20, 1907, April 18, November 9, 1909 Jan. 18, 1916. Other patents pending
Keep this pistol Clean and well oiled We use and recommend "3 in One" Oil" This Pistol Handles any Standard Make of 32 Cal. or 7.65m/m Cartridges If you write us about this arm be sure to say "32 CALIBER SELF-LOADING" Manufacturers of AUTOMATIC PISTOLS REVOLVERS SHOT GUNS".
I'm curious as to the value. Estimates???

Comments

  • Hardrada55Hardrada55 Member Posts: 62 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got to know what kind of condition it is in to be able to give you a value. Like new in the original box is a vastly different value than beat to hell and broken into pieces in the original box.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My reference shows $300 for this Webley look a like in excellent condition.
    With box and accessories I'd guess it would go for much more to an
    H&R collector.
  • 32 Magnum32 Magnum Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    From a collector's standpoint: A 32 Self Loader has collectible value only if in V.Good or Excellent and above condition. Lowest price I've seen asked for these and realized at auction is in the $275 range for pieces with about 50 to 60% finish, but fully functional. Excellent condition pieces are much less frequently seen and command prices in the $300-$340 range. Excellent plus in a very rarely seen original box, with original accessories, should push the value into the $450-525 range (depending upon condition of gun and box). There are two varieties of these guns - either 12 line or 16 line (the gripping area at the rear of slide). Twelve line guns are the earliest and command a higher value because less than 3000 were made, out of around 30,000 total pieces manufactured. Values vary depending upon the area in which sold, and are RETAIL. Selling to a dealer, you will realize 60 to 70% of the retail. These guns are a "knock-off" of the Webley Metropolitan with some internal and external changes. The Superintendent of Works for Webley, secured the US Patents cited and assigned them to H&R. They apparently received mixed acceptance in the US, probably because of the size, were dropped from the catalogues during the period late 1920's, and reinstated (probably to get rid of remaining stock or pieces assembled from spare parts) in the post WW2 period. I have fired several of mine, and find them pleasant to shoot and relatively accurate (2.5 to 4" groups at 25', standing, unsupported). With the majority of the weight centered in the grip and therefore in the shooting hand, they feel and handle much like the Luger. If your gun has not been fired, other than factory test, IMHO, DON'T shoot it - retain its collector value.
    added: from my experience - the most commonly seen malfunction is a sticky grip safety, usually just needs a bit of lube to free up, especially if the piece has been sitting around for decades, the old 3 in 1 Oil gets a bit tacky.
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