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A H Fox Info ????

abcguns2abcguns2 Member Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2007 in Ask the Experts
O.k. , have this gun , need some opinions on this :
A H Fox Gun Co. Phila Pa
12 ga.
26" bbls (factory?)?
Krupp fluid steel bbls
sn#17377
Imp/mod (left bbl)
Mod (right bbl)
blue/metal apx. 85% plus
blue (not case colored) receiver
overall 75% (stock has a few minor issues)
all appears org.???

O.K , so what can you guys tell me , Ive been told and read all kinds of stuff ??? man.date?value?comments?ect...need some info before I offer it up @ G.B. auctions .......
Thanks !!!
d.a.stearns
Gunsmith / LEO
Niota , Tn

Comments

  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    abcguns2, I do not have enough information to judge your Fox, could you please post a few pictures of all markings and of the general condition. This would be very helpful as your Fox could be worth anything from $250 to $25,000. Thank you and I'll be loking forward to seeing those.
  • 101AIRBORNE101AIRBORNE Member Posts: 1,252 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    abcguns2,
    Serial number indiactes a gun manufactured
    about 1911. There should be a letter stamped
    on the water table-*A through F*.
    The receiver was originally case colored-thus
    the gun has been altered from original condition.
    I also suspect the 26" barrels on a .12 Ga. but
    possible. You will need to post some photos for
    further evaluation but being altered from original
    condition it is not collectable. A letter may be obtained
    from John Callahan which will describe the gun as originally
    manufactured.
  • abcguns2abcguns2 Member Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    O.K. , the letter is an "A" , with the exception of the minor stock problems and the question of the receiver (blue?)? it seems to be in good cond. and org. (apx. 80-85%),just trying to figure out a ballpark dollar amount so I can list this thing . Cant take any photos @ this time ...Anymore ideas ?
    Thanks !!!
    d.a.stearns
    Gunsmith / LEO
    Niota , Tn
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    Krupp tubes are a big plus for any gun. Cut down Krupp tubes are a huge demerit, so you really need them checked. If unchoked, then almost certainly cut. Receiver finish is another demerit as is a cracked stock (even if minor). You really didn't provide enough information to judge.

    I believe it's safe to say that the gun is not in the collector class. Thus, it's a shooter. A refinish will make little difference in value as such, but the tubes and the stock could still be an issue.

    Without photos and a reasonably good idea about the tubes and stock I'm forced to place the gun in the $350.00 range. This assuming all is mechanically sound and the gun safe to fire.

    I'd add some if the tubes are choked... Probably at least $100.00. The stock? All depends on the soundness of the component. The finish? You can't reasonably reverse what's been done.

    Had your gun survived a century in unaltered condition, then my estimate might be much different. The problem being that alterations invariably place the gun away from collector interest. In doing so there's little difference between a Stevens double and a Fox double (or any other) as they've merely become an instrument for tossing a load of shot.
  • abcguns2abcguns2 Member Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    O.K. , Thanks so far , as org. stated : Yes there is chokes in the bbls imp/mod & mod ...appears Not to have been cut ? the stock is NOT cracked but has a small chip @ the receicer and appears not to fit up to the receiver very well ???
    Im hoping to be able to price it @ apx. $450.00-500.00 range and or trade it for something in a 20 ga. (either SxS 0r O/U)???
    with a little more info Im going to list it on G.B. and see what happens ...
    Thanks !!!
    d.a.stearns
    Gunsmith / LEO
    Niota , Tn
  • abcguns2abcguns2 Member Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    O.K. , another update , just talked with a "fox" dealer/collector on the phone , its an early model (A?),should have a case colored rec.
    (has been blued) with that and the minor stock issues he claims I should list it and be o.k. @ the $500-700 range ??? so as soon as I can get some photos , will list it , just hoping to be able to get a nice shooter (as a replacement) in a 20 gauge (either SxS or O/U)???
    or enough cash to just order one (maybe a Mossberg or ???)......
    Wish me Luck !
    Thanks !
    d.a.stearns
    Gunsmith / LEO
    Niota , Tn
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