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For real? (GB auction 71615502)
givette
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Why is this rifle giving me the heeby-jeebies? (Serno. is incorrect for US property marked 1894, right)? Something just doesn't feel right about it, and I can't nail it down. Red light flashing somewhere in the back of my mind. Anyone have an opinion? Joe.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=71615502
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=71615502
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http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=240484
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=240504
If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!
Bill
I don't know if the gun is legit, but it does not appear to have been refinished.
Bill
Hello Bill,
It most definitely has been refinished. If you go to the topic links posted by Old-Colts, you ca see & read the previous discussion that I initiated specifically about this faked gun.
WACA Historian & Life Member
This will probably get me banned from the forum or my post deleted from the thread, but here goes.
If the rifle is an obvious fake, why does the website leave it up for auction, misidentified, and misrepresented? It is an obvious fraud - right???
I would think one of the knowledgeable experts would do the right and decent thing and report the fraud to the website to protect unsuspecting and unaware buyers.
I would hope someone has contacted the responsible parties on the website and gets the auction corrected to reflect all of this expert information.
Regards,
Heavyiron
I also asked for documentaion of the elaborate history that he claimed.
his responce:
"Hi Tom--- I can assure you that the U. S. marking and the Ordnance bomb is properly stamped on the carbine. This carbine is in immaculate condition and I fully guarantee it to be original and not refinished. At the start of the war, there was an immediate need for weapons that could be used for stateside purposes. Rifles and shotguns were needed for guard duty at docks, airfields, prisons, war plant contractors, etc. These weapons were purchased and used in that capacity.
There are some references to this use in several of the publications printed regarding U.S. Military shotguns.
Thanks very much for the inquiry--- Frank"
As I mentioned in the previous thread regarding this rifle, serial numbers are not open to interpretation. If the numbers reflect a later than date, well - there's no way to finesse that and it makes obvious this is not the true article; and that the seller should reasonably be aware of that fact.
Also, the fellow offering this rifle has perfect feedback. As someone who has purchased on GB, these two facts cause me concern.
I note that in the carefully worded description the seller does not assert the rifle has not been reblued. He comes close, stating the rifle is "original" but I think a critical read of the advert says to me at least, that he is choosing his words very carefully with an eye to ambiguity.