Anyone elses shotgun have cast on .. cast off?

select-fire

Does it improve your shooting?

http://www.billhanusbirdguns.com/archive08.html

perry shooter

IMHO a shot gun more then any other fire-arm should FIT the shooter . Most good wing shots or clay bird shots be it Skeet, Trap, or sporting clay's do not spend the time to get a perfect sight picture. but rather use the shot-gun as an extension of there vision to where they are LOOKING. with a pistol or rifle the shooter uses sights and can given enough time hit a target even if the fire-arm does not FIT. The Human body comes in a wide array of shapes and sizes and cast off or cast on plus drop ETC are all factor in on how well you can shoot a given shotgun. EXTREME examples of cast off can be seen on guns that the shooter is blind in one eye but they can still shoot very well with a highly modified stock design.It is odd how the taste in shoot guns differ between Europe and the U.S.A. the U.S shooterss like single triggers the European shooters like double triggers. The U.S. shooters like Beavertail Forearms The european like smaller forearms.
the European like cast on and cast off but U.S. make shotguns that can be used by left and right Hand shooters.

geeguy

Select-fire:
Not sure this is a fair question. As Perry states it is a matter of "fit" and comfort. This can also be acheived by an adjustable butt plate (like a morgan) and an adjustable comb. These line the rib with the eye and keep your head up. I started with tilt of my head (like most shooters)and always did well. Since having shotguns "fitted" to me with palm swell, adj. cheek, and cast off, I am much more comfortable and sight better, but I'm not sure it's that noticeable in my scores. Although logic would dictate that if you are more comfortable and with better sight picture your scores "should be" better.

I love the cast and adjustable cheek, but I'm sure you will get many opinions saying it isn't needed to shoot well.

select-fire

I purchased a 20 gauge HK o/u shotgun the other day. Didn't notice the stock till after I shot it. Gun points real nice. It has a cast off stock. Looked at the 12 HK o/u and noticed the same. Gun fits me like a glove. Article says european gunmakers do this. Wonder why American gun makers haven't done it on their guns? Maybe that explains why I have above average bird hunts.

givette

Another tidbit:
I have a cast-off stock on my English made .375 H&H. I guess it helps when shooting dangerous game, also.
PS..I'll post a pic of the castoff on my rifle, if anybody indicates they would like to see it. Joe

shooter93

All the rifles I have made have cast off as well as my shotguns.

shooter93

I'll amend that...my lever guns don't.

zink

I have made several gunsstocks with cast off of 1/4". helps the right handed shooter line up without laying their head over the stock, it is more natural. The recoil is directed away from the cheek also.

Lance

asphalt cowboy

Cast and cant are a must in my opinion, be it shotgun or rifle.

In the shooting sports it can mean the difference in scores. To me it's a bigger issue in the field where game birds/animals can be either bagged or lost.

bobski

all cast offs are not crucial to gun fit.

fitting a gun to the individual is, and if it involves a cast off stock, so be it. its just one of many needs to fit a shotgun.

case in point, im a lefty. any factory cast is usually for right handers...which becomes a death blow to a sale for me. gun mfger's know this, so they prefer a one size fits all for the masses.

accessory mfgers knew this and made a killing....which forced gun mfgers to rethink their guns. its why most shotguns today have multi do all adjustomatic the b-jesus everything on them.

funny point....ive owned and shot thousands of brand shotguns and shot every one of them well. but of all my guns today, i still prefer the factory one size fits all stock guns and dont shoot the b-jesus adjusto-stocks.

so i guess its just my opinion here......cast offs are nice but not needed.