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Banned ammo at the range

The DutchmanThe Dutchman Member Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2007 in Ask the Experts
I went to the local indoor range last week and was told I could not use my Remington ammunition. I asked why and they said it was considered to be unsafe. My PMC and Magtech were considered acceptable. Any thoughts?
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  • HandgunHTR52HandgunHTR52 Member Posts: 2,735
    edited November -1
    Do they sell Remington Ammo? If not, I would say that they are just trying to force their customers to buy from them. If they do, then ask them why it is good enough to sell to their customers, yet not safe enough to shoot at their range.
    I have not heard anything about recalls for Remington ammo.

    It actually sounds like someone has a problem with Remington, and they are taking it out on their customers.
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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What do you want to bet that Remington's lawyers want in on this.

    Please post the name of the range and by Friday Remington ammo will suddenly be safe there.

    Cerberus has more money than you can imagine.
    They will soon own another indoor range for cheap.

    CP

    EDIT
    DUTCHMAN it is now 2043 Wed 11/21/2007

    Where is the range??
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  • medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Agree with above. There have been zero recalls of any Remington ammo that I am aware of. We use it on our indoor range here with no problems.

    My gut reaction is that the owner only wants you to use ammo purchased from them. The last owner of our indoor range wanted everyone to use only ammo purchased from his shop on the range for 9mm and 40S&W. Come to find out he was reloading them and putting them back in the original boxes...he is no longer the owner.
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  • mr_floppymr_floppy Member Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I tried to take the neighbor this week to an indoor range for his introduction to pistols. I called the range ahead of time to check if any rules had changed from a year ago.


    Epa issues...... Range would not accept factory ball ammo as they insist that all ammo must be of some new totally enclosed bullet due to lead issues. They were very polite.

    So we went to an outdoor range instead the next state over (2 hours drive). I got us a new convert! I ran him thru .22, 9, 40, 45, 10mm, and .357 sig.

    It was in 40's here today and raining.

    He was all grins said it's the most fun he's ever had in the rain.

    I'm guessing it's a lead/ EPA "clean indoor range thing you had today"
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  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I'm guessing it's a lead/ EPA "clean indoor range thing you had today" Okay, but how does that relate only to Remington brand ammunition?
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  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    +1 on the rangeowner/manager making a buck on his ammo...
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, this is a link to a range that has "total copper jacket" policy.

    http://www.horstguns.com/HMammopolicy.htm

    I'm not sure if this is scientifically valid. Several of my local indoor ranges have air vents at each firing point, with an exhaust fan downrange; I assume that this is necessary to meet EPA requirements. If it works, why require total copper jackets?

    Neal
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  • dolfandolfan Member Posts: 4,159
    edited November -1
    My local indoor range also has ammo restrictions. They'll place a magnet on your ammo to check for steel core. I copied this from their website:

    Restrictions
    For safety reasons steel core, incendiary, and tracer rounds are not permitted in our range. Rounds traveling at over 4000fps are also not permitted. Shotgun ammunition is limited to 00 buckshot rounds only. The Largest caliber permitted is 300 Win Mag. No pre-loaded magazines. The following brands are no longer permited in our range:

    Wolf
    Silver Bear
    Brown Bear
    Golden Bear
    American Ammunition
    Sellier and Bellot
    Reloads (Hand loads are permited)
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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reloads (Hand loads are permited)

    What the heck does this mean?
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  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The problem comes about when the bullet leaves the barrel.

    That is when you get what is known as LEAD VAPOR.

    Enough of it floating around in the air of a closed in space and you will be breathing it before it ever reaches even the best designed air filter system.

    Indoor ranges are just covering their butt and insurance from law suites down the road should you come down with lead poisoning sometime in life.

    They saw it happen to tobacco companies when they all get sued for millions for causing cancer from smoking. They do not want the same type of thing happening to them due to lead poisoning.
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  • NwcidNwcid Member Posts: 10,674 ✭
    edited November -1
    No pre loaded mags? What is the point of that? It seems like you would spend a lot of your range time loading vs shooting. Most of my shooting now is limited so I take a bunch of mags, shoot them, then reload them at home.
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  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    Ask for written documentation. Documentation of regulations set forth by the governing body of the range. If it is not allowed it should also be publicly posted at said range.
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  • CyclonusCyclonus Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November -1
    Im curious why no Sellier and Bellot? I dont see anything wrong with thier ammo at all the 8mm mauser ammo they sell shoots great but kicks like a mule due to the 196gr bullet.
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