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244

bluegoose11bluegoose11 Member Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2007 in Ask the Experts
I bought a mauser chambered for 244 I was told this was the same as a 6mm can you tell me if this is true? Or is the brass diferent. Thanks in advance
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  • CyclonusCyclonus Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November -1
    Never heard of a 244 but I have heard of a 243 and NO that is not the same as a 6mm only the bullet size is the same as the 6mm remington case is longer.
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    244 was Remington's original name for the 6mm, when they put it on the market in the mid 50's.

    They changed the name for marketing purposes, to 6mm in the 60's.

    If your rifle is marked 244 and is factory original, likely it's quite old. ( 40+ years ). Have it checked/test fired by a competent gunsmith for headspace etc. My 2?.
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  • CyclonusCyclonus Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    244 was Remington's original name for the 6mm, when they put it on the market in the mid 50's.

    They changed the name for marketing purposes, to 6mm in the 60's.

    If your rifle is marked 244 and is factory original, likely it's quite old. ( 40+ years ). Have it checked/test fired by a competent gunsmith for headspace etc. My 2?.



    Thanks learn something new everyday as I did not know that.
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  • xbcrickxbcrick Member Posts: 80 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was raised deer hunting with a 244. I believe they are the same. I know for a fact that my Dad would load brass with 6mm markings for the 244. And he also purchased 6mm ammo for it one time when he did not have the time to reload for me. But that was 35 years ago.
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  • OleDukOleDuk Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cartridges are the same; .244 was loaded with with 75 and 90 grain bullets. 6mm is loaded with 80 and 100 grain bullets (if a feeble old memory is working right) and twist of rifling was changed for 6mm to 1:9. .244 twist rate was 1:12. Changes were made to overcome possibly imagined advantages of the .243 over the .244.

    Cheers,

    OleDuk[:)][:)]
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  • ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by OleDuk
    Cartridges are the same; .244 was loaded with with 75 and 90 grain bullets. 6mm is loaded with 80 and 100 grain bullets (if a feeble old memory is working right) and twist of rifling was changed for 6mm to 1:9. .244 twist rate was 1:12. Changes were made to overcome possibly imagined advantages of the .243 over the .244.

    Cheers,

    OleDuk[:)][:)]


    This is 100% correct.[^]
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  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886 ✭
    edited November -1
    If your barrel is stamped .244 Rem. then you have 1-12 twist. Meant as a varmint cartridge. Changed to tighter twist (and renamed 6mm) to draw off some of the 243 Win. market. No more .244 ammo on gunstore shelves. Only the 6mm Rem which has a much heavier bullet to accomodate tighter twist rate. Hope you reload, because at about 58-60gr bullets, you have one of the most perfect varmint cartridges. 6mm ammo may shoot at less than good accuracy in your gun. Bullet too heavy. Don't know if company's make it, but see if you can find factory loaded 6mm in no heavier than 60-75gr.

    And yes, to answer your question, case dimensions are the same between .244Rem and 6mm Rem.
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  • CyclonusCyclonus Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November -1
    Ive got a 500ct box of 60 grain spitzer bullets if you need them.
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bluegoose11,

    If that is a rifle built on a mauser action, check the rifling twist rate, or have it checked. It was REMINGTON who chambered their rifles with a 1:12 twist barrels for bullets up to 90 grains. Other makers might have had a quicker twist. Yes, they do still make an 80 grain factory load which will work in a 1:12, or a 1:10 twist as well. You just need a 1:10 to stabilize bullets over 90 grains.

    Best,
    Tim
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  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bluegoose11,

    It being a Mauser action, it is with little doubt a re-barrel. As rufe-snow pointed out .244's and 6mm Rem's are one in the same. The early .244's had a 1-12" twist as Remington didn't think anyone would need to go to 100 gr. in 6mm with a spitzer. The 1-9" twist of the later .244's and the 6mm's will stabilize up to a 115 gr. spitzer but probably not a VLD.

    You will need to check the rifling twist yourself to see what it is. If you do not know how, simply take a good cleaning rod, one with a bearing handle. Put a patch on a jag. Insert that into the bore. Mark top center of the rod. Also, mark a given distance from the action on the rod arther than what you think the twist is. i.e. more than 12" from the action. Push the jag/rod into the bore making sure it rotates. When the top center mark has made one revolution stop. Measure the distance from the action to your first mark. Subtract that from your first measurement. That is the number of inches in twist you will have.

    -good luck
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