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M1 carbine question

B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
The Inland parts kit from the gunshow is now mated with the Iver Johnson receiver and I went through a whole mag today without a hitch.
But I do have a question. The receiver is marked:

Iver Johnson
N J

According to BlueBook (and some other pubs), IJ did not produce a M1 carbine until 1985. Yet this receiver is marked for New Jersey and IJ only manufactured there from '75-'82.

Can anyone explain this obvious descrepancy (other than the reference pubs are AFU)?.

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  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just bought a Carbine and it is my first rifle so you'll have ot bear with me if my question sounds silly. I want to take it to the range this weekend, but I'm having trouble finding out which parts I need to grease/oil to guarantee it functions properly. Even though I'm new to all of this, I would rather know how ot do it than pay someone to do something so simple for me. As of right now it was just cleaned so nothing is greased. If someone could refer me to a site or give me a detailed step by step process it would help me out a lot. Also if you reccommend any types of oil or grease or have any other tips I'd be more than happy to hear. Thanks a lot!

    Andrew
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    anyone know the approx manufacture date on a winchester carbine ser# 1294XXX ?...thanks!
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yesterday at the range after about 100 rounds the operating slide popped out of the groove and came off the bolt. I can get it back together but was wondering if there was something I should be looking for or if it was just "one of those things"? It's a rebuilt Underwood from Fulton Armory. Have a call into them but wondered if anyone here has thoughts.
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saw a question on the general discussion asking what folks were jonesing for and one was a GI M1 Carbine. I have a value question. My mom left my dad's M-1 to my hubbie when she passed away last month. It's in great shape for the shape its in. It has been the light weight firearm the young'uns have used when toting their first "real" gun into the deer woods. We will never sell it, but I was curious about its value. Any ideas?
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an opportunity to buy an M1 carbine. A US Postal meter in VERY good condition with an [?] import mark.[?] I know nothing about this type of firearm, except that they are fun to shoot, this from personal experience. What is this gun worth? How about Magazines, easy or hard to get? Cost of mags? Ammo? I see some guns on the auction side for various prices but no real pattern to go off of. Can any one help or point me in the direction of good info? Thanks!!
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have a m1 carbine (inland)the front sight needs to be relaced, the pin that holds it in is it a taper pin or straight? been trying to drive it out with no luck? any suggestions?
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My father-in-law (nice guy!) just gave me his service M1 carbine. I know very little about M1's, but it's an Underwood 11/43 with a bayo lug, pristine bore, and no import marks (since he lugged it across Europe). No rust, bluing is about 75%, and everything is functional - including the bolt lock-open button. I would say that the stock is in VG+ condition with no major gouges or dings. No muzzle dings either. The stock is quite dirty, though.

    Just a few questions:
    - Would cleaning it with something like Formbys furniture cleaner hurt the value?
    - The trigger group is a little loose. It this normal?
    - There are four holes (two on each side) at the top rear of the hand guard. What are these for?
    - Can anyone give me a general value?

    Thanks!
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About 1964 I purchased an M1 carbine through the NRA ($60.00 with included 1000 rounds of ammo). Because it was an arsenal rework, I never thought much about it being collectible. I would however like to find out if it actually has a matching barrel and receiver. The receiver is stamped Winchester. The barrel has a "W" stamped just in front of the bayonet band.

    barrelw.jpg

    There are numerous other parts with the "W" stamp, but whether or not this indicates Winchester parts, I haven't a clue.

    stocknutw.jpg
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've seen the small grease pots for sale at the gun shows for M1s and M1 Carbines.

    What gets greased, if anything on the carbine?

    Thanks,

    Jim
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I realize this question may be to wide in perimeters, but I've always wanted to have a "collector" M1 carbine. So many are listed with many variations so if it is feasible to reply I'd appreciate it.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's difficult to say what a gun is worth, especially since 1) you aren't able to describe it for us, & 2) you didn't post any photos. If you must have an estimate, I'd say it would sell in the $400-1,200 range.

    The value would depend upon condition ("very good" tells us nothing), identification of small parts, original or replacement wood, & barrel condition. Those carbines with import markings are at the bottom end of the range, especially those imported by Blue Sky. If you want to check our discussion of carbines within the last day or so, that will help you find books that explain much of what you need to know.

    Mags are easy to find & inexpensive, unless you live in a state where they are restricted. You can research what they sell for in the SOLD listings for this site & fleabay. Ammo is not expensive, & can be found easily.

    Neal
  • B17-P51B17-P51 Member Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks, Should have done that in the first place. There is a lot of info out there on this subject already.
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