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7.92
tadlwd
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Would any one know what a good starting price would be for 7.92 AP 1953 and 1954. I would like to list this on the auction site but I can not find much out there. I also have some that has a silver looking tip 5 to a stripper clip does anyone know anything about this ammo? Thanks, Tony
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What is on the headstamp?
Heavyiron
As with your question about the "7.62 HF" in order to identify this material, both the "silver looking tip" and the AP, the complete headstamps and photos are critical. There are many candidates for both.
Tony, I truly mean no offense, but if you had to ask if the 7.92x57 = "8mm Mauser" in a previous thread, I have to wonder how you could identify these rounds as armor piercing?
As with your question about the "7.62 HF" in order to identify this material, both the "silver looking tip" and the AP, the complete headstamps and photos are critical. There are many candidates for both.
Hi,
What is on the headstamp?
Heavyiron
Take one of the cartriges out of the box and look at the base. It should have several markings/letters on the base. These are known as the "head stamp" and are what are needed to identify the cartrige.
Added
OK, now that we have the "BPD" headstamp, all is clear. This is Italian ammunition loaded by the Bombrini Parodi-Delfino arsenal on contract to Egypt. A huge amount of these loads have come into the country as milsurp over the years. Value? Pretty low, like the Turkish milsurp.
I believe if you apply a magnet to the cases you will find them to be steel with a dark green lacquer coating.
A photo of the headstamp would still be very useful (you can rub some chalk into the impressions or wipe some "White-out" into them which will make the details clear). "51" is a PRC arsenal code (the Communist nations use a number to designate the arsenal), but it would be helpful to see the exact headstamp to confirm that is the case here, how the other elements are arranged, font, etc. Especially because the Chinese generally (always?) use a copper wash on their steel cases; the green lacquer is typically Eastern European / Russian. Normally, I'd expect the code to be from a DDR (East German) producer although there are a few other possibilities. Also, German 7.92x57 ammo, from pre-WW I until it was replaced with Warsaw Pact standard weapons systems in the Cold War, was packed 15 rounds / carton (I don't know how Chinese rifle ammo was packed in the 1950s).
Is there any sealant evident at the case mouth? If so, what color? What is the color of the sealant around the primer?
BTW, the "short case" ammo your search brought up on the auctions might be 7.92x33, the round used in the German Sturmgewehr assault rifle of WW2, which remained in service in the DDR and Yugoslavia for many years after the war.
The headstamp should look like the one below.
As Iconoclast has stated the cartridge was manufactured by Bombrini Parodi-Delfino arsenal. This cartridge may also have a two digit year marking. This headstamp was in use between 1942 to 1957.
Regards,
Heavyiron