300 win. mag VS. 300 rem ultra Mag/SAUM

Storm_82

I currently do all my deer/elk hunting with a 7mm and I have always been happy with it, but I am heading to Alaska this coming Aug. to do some Moose hunting and have decided to up grade to a 300 of some sort. I have a few buddies that shoot 300 win. mag's and that was the direction I was going towards, until I started seeing the 300 ultra mag and the 300 saum. Now I am having a hard time deciding because I have no personal experience with any of them and according to what I have read the all perform exceptionally. So I am wondering if anyone has any pointers or preference, and if so why.

Thanks,
Josh.
Rockymountain_mp@yahoo.com

wanted man

I have the 7mm R.U.M. because I did my homework and that's what I decided was the best for me. The 7mm or 300 R.U.M should (correction, WILL!) TAKE ANY ANIMAL ON THIS CONTINENT.
From 120gr to 175gr, with spectacular velocity and enough energy for all your hunting needs!*LOL*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<True
The only drawback to the R.U.M.'s is that they're Magnum actions, adding weight to the rifle and of course a longer bolt-throw than a SAUM. Ballistically speaking, there really is NO comparison.

Tailgunner1954

Considering that the natives do their hunting with a Mini-14 and 223 ammo................
300 Win Mag is common, and easy to find, RUM/SAUM ammo is expensive and not easy to find
300WM is not hard on the shoulder, the others are a healthy step up in recoil.
My buddy used to use a 375H&H for his "charge stopper" when he was guiding bear hunts in AK, and the 300H&H (equiv to the 300WM) for his personal hunting. His mantra was that "I'd rather guide someone that was comfortable with their 30-06, than someone that was afraid of their magnum" IOW, use what your comfortable with.
If you put the bullet in the right place it will do the job, if you put it in the wrong place it dosn't matter how big and powerful it is.

pipes6

300 win mag is where most shooters feel like recoil starts, not much worse than an 0'6, the 300 weatherby, RUM andn 30-378 can take it to a different level both in performance and comfort level. I shoot a 30 378 and my next heavy .30 will be a 300 RUM. better barrel life, stunning performance, decent available brass and most econmical. don't waste any of these on light bullets or light game(maybe woodchucks LOL). IMHO SAUM or SSWM has too many disadvantges regarding feeding and performance except(remains to be seen) for long range bench rest than they are worth. regards graham

sav99fbake

Listen to "wanted man" when he mentions the only drawback to the Ultra ags s the fact that they are not on a true magnum lenght action. it is a serious drawback. I liked my300 Ultra mag but seating the bullets rediculously deep is a pain in more ways than you can think. I switched to a Weterby Mark V and enjoy it much better. Allows the bullets to rest where they need o be.

Beer gut

I have a 300 Wby Mark V 30-378 Wby Mark V and a 300 a-bolt WSM personaly unless you plan on shooting at super long ranges to me the 300 WSM is more fun to shoot comes in a shorter more comfortable rifle, and plenty big for Alaska

607troutkill

Does moose taste good?

Geri

Tailgunner has got it. Bullet placement is the key. Yes, moose tastes good.

vdms55

a friend of mine once gave me a moose roast and it was so tough that i couldn't chew the gravey i made with the drippins'. it came off an old bull with a big rack which made for a knock out head mount. so here is the milion dollar question. you want one for eatin' or for lookin' at.

elkoholic

If you are going to go up from a 7mm mag I think you need to go to the .340 Weatherby or even .375 H&H before you have something enough different to justify the cost. But as others have said, it is more important to shoot something you feel comfortable with.

nononsense

Storm82,

Personally, with your experience and familiarity with your current rifle, I think you can do just fine with the 7mm Rem. Mag. if that's what you mean by "7mm". Loading with 175 gr. Partitions, 160 gr. North Fork Bullets or 175 gr. Swift A-Frames running around 2900 FPS will provide all of the energy and velocity needed for harvesting a moose out to 300 yards and even beyond. I don't think you'll need to shoot beyond that. Given the energy and proper bullet construction, shot placement is paramount when hunting any species.

http://www.northforkbullets.com/

If you have the opportunity and want to buy a new rifle any of the .300's will work just as good as the 7mm Rem. Mag. and with the RUM's, significantly better as far as energy and velocity is concerned. Barrel length will be what limits the extra oomph that can be achieved with regard to the RUM cartridges, longer barrels will net you more of both as opposed to a stubby 24" barrel. You WILL pay a bigger price with recoil.

I would give consideration to the new .375 Ruger due out shortly:

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/PDF/NewProducts/HM77RSPHAB-A-S.pdf

Even when loaded with the lighter end of the bullet selection and at moderate velocities, you will have more energy and it will be a good bear rifle also. Load with the heavy weights and anything on this continent and all of the other continents is fair game.

Best.